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Two German shepherds await fate after biting intruder
Examiner.com ^ | January 27, 2012 | Penny Eims

Posted on 02/11/2012 10:17:56 AM PST by Altariel

Kelso, WA - Lug and Marley, German shepherds, are quarantined at the Cowlitz County Humane Society after biting a woman who walked into their home while their owner was away.

The dogs have been labeled "potentially dangerous" and it will be up to a judge to determine their fate - live or die.

It is stunning that these dogs have been impounded. The woman who was "attacked", Elizabeth Elder, walked into the dogs' home - knowing that the owner was not there.

Apparently Elder is a friend of the dogs' owner, Ingrid Sacha.

It seems that Elder took the familiarity which friendship offered a step too far when she entered Sacha's home in November, even though her friend was not there.

The dogs bit Elder on the legs, hands and face - enough that she required stitches. Elder believes that the dogs are dangerous and should be destroyed.

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; doggieping; germanshepherd; germanshepherds
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To: TheOldLady

My dog is expected to act in this situation. I even have a sign that says if you’re not a friend of my dog, don’t open the door.


41 posted on 02/11/2012 1:05:49 PM PST by nobamanomore
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To: PeterPrinciple

” I was bitten two times when I was a kid. “

Suppose you were teasing or beating the dogs. What then?


42 posted on 02/11/2012 1:12:24 PM PST by tumblindice
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To: Altariel; USMCWife6869; Indy Pendance; Still German Shepherd; dervish; Kozak; Joe 6-pack; ...
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43 posted on 02/11/2012 1:42:50 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Altariel

I guess I’m having a hard time trying to understand this.

The dogs were not running loose. This was not a random attack.

They were doing what they do by nature...protect.

I don’t know what the circumstances were as to why the lady entered the home.

But I will say this..if my dogs were at risk of being put down because of this situation..I would bite the lady myself.


44 posted on 02/11/2012 3:10:25 PM PST by berdie
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To: Altariel

I am a 100% disabled OIF vet and would adopt those dogs to keep them from being killed.


45 posted on 02/11/2012 3:31:51 PM PST by jesseam
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To: Altariel

Agreed. Those GSD’s did their duty. If that judge decrees their murder for defending their home, that judge needs to be removed from the bench.


46 posted on 02/11/2012 4:36:24 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I would agree completely, EXCEPT for the fact that the woman apparently went into the dog’s home when the people were not there, I’m assuming without permission.


47 posted on 02/11/2012 4:38:17 PM PST by Shimmer1 (Take the high road, it's less crowded. (Mark Lowry))
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To: Altariel
I know a few German Shepherds. They are oftentimes natural guard dogs who often happen to be extremely friendly when OFF DUTY. I would never walk into a house when the owner of those dogs was not home - even if those doggies know me. Those dogs are on duty.

I wouldn't do that with any dogs, but especially Shepherds. Those dogs did their jobs.

48 posted on 02/11/2012 4:41:21 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Rick Santorum in the primary)
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To: Altariel
I know a few German Shepherds. They are oftentimes natural guard dogs who often happen to be extremely friendly when OFF DUTY. I would never walk into a house when the owner of those dogs was not home - even if those doggies know me. Those dogs are on duty.

I wouldn't do that with any dogs, but especially Shepherds. Those dogs did their jobs. The same dog that may lick you to death may bite when it is on duty.

49 posted on 02/11/2012 4:42:33 PM PST by Darren McCarty (Rick Santorum in the primary)
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To: Darren McCarty

“Those dogs did their jobs.”

Exactly.


50 posted on 02/11/2012 4:43:30 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Pls add me to gsd ping list. Thank u


51 posted on 02/11/2012 4:56:15 PM PST by AdamBomb
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To: Altariel

My friend has a pit/lab big dog with a loud bark. If I entered their house he’d come over and demand I scratch his ear. She wasn’t a close friend...


52 posted on 02/11/2012 5:15:35 PM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Altariel

Finally had time to really look at this.

There is NO real information hashed out in this “article”.

On the surface, I’d say the dogs were OK. They did what they should do. Although I will comment that not all dogs - and not all German Shepherds - will rip a person up who simply comes in.

But I want to know what was with this woman going into the house? Was she supposed to take care of the dogs? Was she trying to do something for her friend/owner? Does she have an open-door policy with her friends/neighbors (you should go to my sister’s neighborhood; she drives me batty with her turnstile approach to neighbor kids - and yes, she has a German Shepherd)? Or was she actually doing something nefarious, hoping to pilfer a little something that she saw in the house?

Not only my current wimpy dopey GS but my old, almost-fearless guardian GS would “allow” someone in especially if they called to her in her name.

Did this woman do that? Was she expecting the dogs to be penned so didn’t?

There are many holes in this story.


53 posted on 02/11/2012 5:42:25 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: PilotDave

Operative word... breed...Lab/Pit

Actually neither breed is very good at “watch dog duty”

Heck, little Terriers are better protectors, they just don’t have the clout.

I have been told that the best “protector” breed is the standard poodle. Doesn’t fit their image..but I do believe it.


54 posted on 02/11/2012 5:54:22 PM PST by berdie
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To: Altariel

Put the stupid woman down.


55 posted on 02/11/2012 6:06:46 PM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: PeterPrinciple
And you just sound so proud of the fact that the dogs were destroyed.

My own dog accidentally bit me, barely missing my jugular vein, did I have him destroyed? No I did not.

These dogs were defending their home against someone who had no right being there when the owner was not.

ALL dogs will bite given the right circumstances, and hell no they should not be destroyed over it.

Get a life .

56 posted on 02/11/2012 7:51:46 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Altariel

Welcome to politically correct Washington State.

Every day the Real America is gradually shrinking.

Washington, Oregon, California, the northeast U.S. (where I sit trapped), Florida, Illinois and Maryland have been taken over by politically correct maniacs.

These dogs should be protected under a Castile Doctrine.


57 posted on 02/11/2012 8:37:46 PM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: Shadowstrike

And you just sound so proud of the fact that the dogs were destroyed.
My own dog accidentally bit me, barely missing my jugular vein, did I have him destroyed? No I did not.

These dogs were defending their home against someone who had no right being there when the owner was not.

ALL dogs will bite given the right circumstances, and hell no they should not be destroyed over it.

Get a life .


I swear common sense does not exist any more. Once an animal has bitten a human there is a high chance it will do it again. It has revealed it’s inclination to bite! We valued human life more than an animal life. You do not seem to have that same value.

Where the hell does pride enter. I would suggest that pride is your damn problem. Get your own damn life.


58 posted on 02/12/2012 7:12:56 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I value human and animal life.

Just like the owner of these dogs does. THEY were protecting the habitat of their OWNER.

You need to get some “damn” common sense.


59 posted on 02/12/2012 7:14:39 PM PST by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Shadowstrike
Once an animal has attacked a human, you can NEVER trust it again, no matter what has provoked the situation. Even Junk Yard dogs are destroyed if they draw blood because the owner knows he cannot trust them himself nor does he want the liability. Police dogs are trained to attack, but only to grab clothing, not flesh. The fact that this has to go to a judge and the comments here tell me we are no longer in a civilized society. You have an opinion here but the wisdom of history does not support you.

Maybe it is the word “destroyed” that bothers you. Yes, it is a violent word. Killing is a violent act, whether human or animal. I use the word intentionally rather than “put down”. You would understand this if you have taken an animal life. It should never be done with pleasure but sometimes MUST be done for a greater good.

You focus on the the habitat of the owner. Will you REALLY take the risk of the dog biting the flesh of a child or person that doesn't understand dogs? Yes property is important but once blood is drawn that is beyond protecting property. Even my liberal neighbor understands this concept, and chases children away from her yard because she loves her dogs and knows that once a dog bites a human, she will have to destroy it. I guess the bottom line is we are no longer a civilized society.

60 posted on 02/13/2012 7:17:05 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Lord, save me from some conservatives, they don't understand history any better than liberals.)
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