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Posted on 02/06/2012 6:56:46 PM PST by The_Obama_Gerbil
As Conservatives&Republicans, we never take any poll from ABC & The Compost Seriously. Only 1000 people were sampled? And in what states did they take this poll? Blue States? Big Deal! They took a poll of 1000 potential voters out of 150 to 180 Million that may vote in November. Never mind these miniscule polls. Lets hear some real polls from the 7 to 12 Swing States! We all know what states Obama is in trouble with. And what if we get a Romney/Rubio or Romney/McDonnell Ticket? Then Obama is in real Deep Doodoo!!!
some will only see what they want to see and never put their bias aside, that is for the left and sadly for the right.
What we have is a war and it seems we have some who are so blinded that they cannot see how they help those on the left, whether immigration, homosexuality, abortion, etc.
They have to see only the negatives instead of looking at what they are being told and the writing on the wall.
When all this is over you and I know what will be said and when one of the candidates drops out and endorses Romney then how will those people feel knowing how stupid they look?
It doesn’t matter who endorses Romney.
Free Republic will NEVER endorse or support Romeny. Be thankful for that.
Even if Newt and Sarah Palin eventually endorse Romney, Free Republic will NEVER support or endorse Romney.
And pro-Romney supporters will continue to get banned.
Embrace it. Free Republic will continue to be Anti-Romney FOREVER. Ha
How?
2. Called Ryan’s budget plan “right wing Social Engineering”
Q: Rep. Ryan says squeeze a lot of savings across the federal budget, including a lot out of Medicare to turn it into a voucher program. Your initial reaction to the Ryan plan was that it's radical right-wing social engineering. Then you backtracked. Why?
GINGRICH: [A reporter asked] a narrow question: Should Republicans impose an unpopular bill on the American people? Now, I actually wrote a newsletter supporting the Ryan budget. And those words were taken totally out of context. If you're dealing with something as big as Medicare and you can't have a conversation with the country where the country thinks what you're doing is the right thing, you better slow down. Remember, we all got mad at Obama because he ran over us. Well, th Republicans ought to follow the same ground rule. If you can't convince the American people it's a good idea, maybe it's not a good idea. There are certain things I would do different than Paul Ryan on Medicare. I agree strongly with him on Medicaid.
3. Pushed Conservatives to vote for Medicaid under Bush.
I am for dramatic reform of Medicare. I chaired the Medicare reform task force which saved it in 1996 when the trustees said it was going to go broke, and we passed changes which enabled them to say that we had postponed any problem for well over a decade.
“And I’m very prepared to talk about how to reform Medicare and make it economically viable,” he said. “But I feel strongly that the number one purpose of health care is health, and Medicare was designed in the 1960s when pharmaceutical drugs were not a significant part of how you took care of people.
“And for us to have a government-run health plan that said we’re not going to help you with insulin but we’ll be glad to pay for kidney dialysis is an utterly anti-human provision,” he said. “And so all I was in favor of was modernizing the system to recognize modern medicine.”
4. Pelosi couch love-fest on Climate Change
OMG! OMG! He sat on a couch with PELOSI!!!
And testified in Congress against Crap & Tax and wrote a book in 2008, Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less.
5. In his book he calls for Individual Mandate
What book?
6. An energy industrial policy some have called “Solyndra on steroids.
Link?
7. Headlined events with John Kerry on Global Warming
He has said he believes there's warming but doesn't believe it's manmade. So what?
8. Appearing around the Nation with Al Sharpton pushing Obama education policies.
Speaker Gingrich, what do you see is important?
Rep. GINGRICH: Well, let's see, first of all, I was really attracted to working with Reverend Sharpton because he took the position that education is the number one civil right of the 21st century. Without education, you can't have a decent job, you can't be an effective citizen. You really are crippled in your ability to be an American.
I thought he was exactly right. He showed great courage in raising questions about how we reform education. So, we decided talking with President Obama, talking with Secretary Arne Duncan, that while we disagree about some things -I, for example, I favor the right to a voucher or what I would call a Pell grant for K through 12 - but we all agree that we want accountability, we want transparency, we want parents to have the right to choose.
The president has courageously come out for unlimited charter schools in every state. And that's a very big step forward to having a more competitive and more accountable education system.
Some of them buy the MSM soundbytes and never look any further. I laugh everytime that I see “MSM Death Watch”. Riiiight!
The trouble with national polling, currently, is the randomness of the sample on a national basis.
The election is REALLY 51 SEPARATE elections. So, reliably Blue AND reliably Red states are unimportant. The only ones that count are the Battleground states in close elections.
In order for a random national poll to be statistically significant, a statistically significant random number of voters need to be polled in EACH state. This gives a statistically more accurate gauge of the national mood. 1000 RANDOM voters nationwide just does NOT cut it.
A BETTER method, in a close election, is to assign the RELIABLE states to each party and count up the electoral votes. Then, you sample a statistically significant number of random voters in EACH of the Battleground states.
Once the polling numbers are known, each of the Battleground states can be assigned to the preferred party. Only then, when you look at the electoral count, can the national sentiment be gauged.
And people need to remember that polls are ONLY a snapshot in time.
In 1980, Jimmy Carter led Ronald Reagan by 9-12 points [nationally] once the nominees were decided. By the last debate [the week before the election], Carter STILL led Reagan by 2-4 points. A few days later, AFTER the last debate, Carter was BEHIND by 2-4 points - but STILL within striking distance.
HOWEVER, by Monday [the day BEFORE the election], Carter was BEHIND by 10 points and was told that HE COULD NOT WIN ...
Carter LOST the 1980 election 489-49 electoral votes and ONLY carried 6 states [GA, HI, MD, MN, RI, and WV] plus DC. AND he ONLY carried these COLLECTIVELY by 562K votes ...
Food for thought ...
after doing get out the vote for newt I can honestly say FOX has a big part for Romney.
Half the people said “are you sure I saw the news they never mentioned that?” and words close to that.
It is so annoying that our MSM and Hollywood have such a strangle hold on peoples opinion but I guess the the sheep follow the weal minded follow and the commie/socialist/ fringe left knew this and got jobs in that profession
As you say given an adequately random sample, which can be biased in numerous ways in selection.
A poll measuring the stupidity and/or gullibility of the American electorate would be just as accurate as asking them who they will vote for.
Yeah, Pravda does that.
I'm going to bed. It's late.
Goodnight my friend.
The real problem with this poll, if the info given about it on Fox’s “The Five” this afternoon is correct, is that it was taken of 1000 “adults” - not even “registered voters” much less “likely voters” - the general adult population is not very sophisticated and in that ‘rats tend to be lazy, irresponsible, and stupid, fewer of them actually take the steps and stay informed enough to eventually vote, so that registered voters tend to poll more conservative than the general population, and likely voters more conservative than registered voters - in other words, this was a biased sample if one is looking to see how an election would actually turn out today, and Obama would probably about tie Romney in such a contest...sadly all four conservatives on the Fox program seemed unaware of this and failed to laugh the findings of the poll out of the conversation......
just told LJ
I have always been against a third party but if the GOP and it is thinking that the north east and the beltway is AMERICA THEN WE NEED A THIRD PARTY NOW.
the traditional party or something, a party which stands for what the GOP did stand for .
A party with likes of Allen West who can articulate a message on social and fiscal issues, a message which can get to he hispanic, religious, black and military communities
I’ have had it and so pissed off with their ignorance for what the GOP once stood, the family was the back bone of this country and the commies decades ago knew this and wen t after the family and now they are winning because we have the elitist north east beltway idiots and cowards leading this party
oh and a good morning to you friend
Republican elites are not going to stop being liberal. It’s their gravy train. They have to be destroyed if conservatives are ever going to have a voice.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2843518/posts?page=25
Look at this and then we have the establishment not willing to fight the socialists on social issues.
They fight tooth and nail and we have our side just looking at their pockets, or many of them anyway and to say they want Romney is a slap in our face.
The 9th Circus gets overturned regularly. They aren’t a good weathervane.
No problem - I usually don’t watch the entire The Five show all the way through, but I do sometimes check in to see what’s being discussed - yesterday was particularly vexatious, what with the rigged jobs numbers, the government’s encroachments on religious freedoms, and the skewed Post/ABC poll which I had been hearing about in glowing terms all day on the news - The Five is the first of Fox’s evening lineup which starts to give some chances for conservatives to express their opinions openly, and I was hoping to get some sort of antidote for all the happy Obama talk I had been hearing elsewhere all day - I did hear more details on the faux poll - it was run with general adults and not likely voters - which the panelists weren’t sharp enough to pick up on, but did make me feel better......
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