What could possibly go wrong????/s
If the choice is between somebody who is known to be the worst Potus ever, who is known to be hostile to the People of the US, I will vote for the Nominee whoever it is.
What is most sickening in this, Mary, is that (I believe) the only way Obama (or whatever his name is) will be reelected will be through voter fraud and the computer hacking of voter machines. Our elections are perverted and stolen by the communists, and have been for many years now. Oh, we can’t PROVE it, necessarily, but with the anecdotal evidence, it is clear.
Some will vote for the status quo.
Some will vote for anyone but.
Some will vote for the lesser of two evils.
Some will not vote because of cynicism.
Some will not vote.
Some will vote for their principles.
Between all these factions, a united leftist front will win.
We will win when we unite under one principled leader and agenda.
This has not happened - yet.
2016...
I hear where you’re coming from, Mary, and in the primary battle we have to do what we can to get a conservative.
Once it comes to the general election we’re talking a totally different ballgame though. If Romney wins the primary we will have a choice between Romney and Adolf Hitler.
And I don’t say that lightly. We are literally in the same position as the Reichstag right before they passed the Enabling Act of 1933. All the players had their reasons to give Hitler permission to make laws all by himself, even to the point of overturning the Constitution. Political reasons. Their politics was more important than any serious consideration of what a madman would do with that kind of power. The social conservatives wanted Germany to recognize the Vatican (and had a promise from Hitler that he would do this). The fiscal moderates wanted to break gridlock and get the economy back on track. The communists were already in concentration camps. They were all surrounded by the Gestapo so their self-preservation had an effect as well.
But in the end, they silently consented to the deaths of 11 million innocent people because they handed over absolute power to a madman because they were miffed about their own political agenda.
We are watching the rule of law totally destroyed - all the checks and balances run over roughshod while Obama’s czars and everybody in his administration laughs at subpoenas and any laws or rules anybody cites. And even as we speak Obama is laying the groundwork for sharia. It is no accident that he is forcing Roman Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, etc that are totally opposed to their faith; it is conditioning, because eventually ALL OF US non-Muslims will have to broken of our faith, which will be illegal. That’s what sharia means.
I could say much, much more. But suffice it to say that we are literally dealing with Hitler. I know we’re all frustrated, and I’ve said that I wanted to just sit out the election, etc. But we need to be very, very serious about this.
If Adolf Hitler was running against Mitt Rommey would you really vote for Hitler, or refuse to vote against Hitler? Because that is literally where we’re at right now.
But that is where the comparison stops. Obama is not a turd sandwich, he is death to the country. He is bankruptcy, he is a house set afire by an arsonist. While I'd prefer someone else Romney is wonderful compared to Obama. And he is a Mormon. I know a lot of Mormons. Say what you want about their religion but I'd prefer someone that would give me the shirt off their back (even a strange undergarment) than someone that would take everything from me and my family then cut our heads off.
I won't sit on my hands and not vote as others have said they would if Romney is the nominee. I'll support him to the hilt. In the meantime it is too early to pick a winner. The process needs to keep going, at least until Super Tuesday....
I hear where you’re coming from, Mary, and in the primary battle we have to do what we can to get a conservative.
Once it comes to the general election we’re talking a totally different ballgame though. If Romney wins the primary we will have a choice between Romney and Adolf Hitler.
And I don’t say that lightly. We are literally in the same position as the Reichstag right before they passed the Enabling Act of 1933. All the players had their reasons to give Hitler permission to make laws all by himself, even to the point of overturning the Constitution. Political reasons. Their politics was more important than any serious consideration of what a madman would do with that kind of power. The social conservatives wanted Germany to recognize the Vatican (and had a promise from Hitler that he would do this). The fiscal moderates wanted to break gridlock and get the economy back on track. The communists were already in concentration camps. They were all surrounded by the Gestapo so their self-preservation had an effect as well.
But in the end, they silently consented to the deaths of 11 million innocent people because they handed over absolute power to a madman because they were miffed about their own political agenda.
We are watching the rule of law totally destroyed - all the checks and balances run over roughshod while Obama’s czars and everybody in his administration laughs at subpoenas and any laws or rules anybody cites. And even as we speak Obama is laying the groundwork for sharia. It is no accident that he is forcing Roman Catholic hospitals to perform abortions, etc that are totally opposed to their faith; it is conditioning, because eventually ALL OF US non-Muslims will have to broken of our faith, which will be illegal. That’s what sharia means.
I could say much, much more. But suffice it to say that we are literally dealing with Hitler. I know we’re all frustrated, and I’ve said that I wanted to just sit out the election, etc. But we need to be very, very serious about this.
If Adolf Hitler was running against Mitt Rommey would you really vote for Hitler, or refuse to vote against Hitler? Because that is literally where we’re at right now.
What could possibly go wrong????/s
ANY nominee is better than 4 more years of Obama...who will literally destroy this nation.
While I agree with many of your points Mary, the reality is that we are dealing with the electorate we have. Even if Romney was only better than Obama on one issue, I’d still vote for him over our current President.
Also, I believe that if the House and the Senate pass the Ryan budget, Romney will probably sign it. It will be our best shot at getting broad entitlement reform and probably a significant tax cut.
I can’t bring myself to vote for Romney, for the reasons you gave and more. The establishment thinks we will roll over again and do whatever they want after lying, cheating and stealing. We’re suppose to be like the wife who always takes back her cheating husband. As long as we do what they want they will continue taking us for granted. We don’t know what will happen with this primary. Romney might explode, a real conservative might run third party. We need to pray.
I do understand you Mary. But like quite a few here have stated, whoever the nominee is I feel obligated to vote for them. If only to put a speed bump in the way of where we are heading. It is discouraging to have to be in the same spot as we were 4 years ago, but that is the hand we are dealt. I have grandkids that I’m thinking about right now, and I don’t think we can stand another 4 years and still have a chance of righting the wrongs. I wish that I was as brave as you to gamble on 2016. I am not and believe me I pray for strength to do the right thing. My heart is saying hold out for the chance it will work. God Bless us all in this decision process.
>We are now faced with the possibility of reelecting the worst President in the history of our nation OR supporting a flip flopping, narcissistic Massachusetts moderate who wrote the blueprint for Obamacare.<
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When the GOP comes calling for a contribution I just tell them that I have already given my money to Gingrich and that there is nothing left.
I have come to the conclusion that the term conservative means something different today than it did when I was younger. How else can one understand this result? I think people have a disconnect, thinking that conservative means GOP. I think there are MANY who could not tell you what conservative values really are, to be honest. Time and again, we come to the same place, with another non-conservative for our candidate. Otherwise, real conservative MUST be staying home for the primaries. This is the place we get to decide for a conservative candidate, not at the general election. But there is another thing I see, as well. Many pastors are not encouraging their flocks to vote. Churches are no longer turning out virtuous people who desire virtuous leaders. We are then swept back and forth by sound-bites and emotional manipulation. Scripture has a lot of warnings for what is taking place, but I think America will not heed them. Our undoing is going to come quickly and severely, I’m afraid.
You nailed it. Both are just as bad. So the choice to vote third party or write in someone is a no brainier for me if Romney is nominated. Because if Romney wins the chances are great he’ll be pretty bad and the tea party will have to do something or they will be co-opted because they have to stand up to the GOP. Obama is bad but Romney will be just a bad. So why would I vote for candidates I don’t like.
I see the site true blue liberty with true blue state rinos is down. Hope it dies. It was a joke site with real hardcore liberals and dumb rinos there. They were a bit nuts there. Funniest site was when the hardcore socialists argued with the rinos over the economy and Obama. A bit of a mess to read. They were so nuts over there they ran off lots of ex-freepers who were at least halfway better like Pissant. That site was a joke. Went there for comedy. I gave up posting when I realized it was getting nuttier and nuttier. Used to like to argue with them.
>>...Gotta keep up the fight...<<
Too true! For many this election has turned into an “emotional” decision, and I can understand where they are coming from. Much of it stems from sheer frustration, anger and disgust with the RNC/GOP.
We are simply outnumbered by the moderate & indie voters. There are waaaaay too many mod&indie voters lining up to throw gobs of cash and votes at Romney.
We aren’t going to “teach the RNC/GOP a lesson” by protest voting (or not voting or whatever). The RNC/GOP will simply look at out protest vote, shrug its shoulders and continue preaching to its mod&indie choir. In my opinion, the *only* thing that will change *anything* is when we increase the number of voters who will eagerly nominate, support and vote as a unified bloc for stronger conservative candidates.
I’m not saying we should -OR- should not cast some kind of protest vote, or sit this one out, or vote for whatever (R) candidate opposes Obama (which is my personal choice), etc. Do whatever your conscience steers you to do.
What I *am* saying is that NO MATTER WHAT WE DO THIS TIME (I can’t stress this enough), the day after the election, we will still be in the same political jam as regards the type of candidates the RNC/GOP will dump on us.
Bottom line: We currently lack the numbers to force the RNC/GOP’s hand on anything. If we were anywhere *close* to being effectual, we would not be having this conversation about Romney. We need to grow our numbers to rival the mods & indies. Period. The End.
Easier said than done, I know. I’m open to suggestions on the best way to do it.