Posted on 01/30/2012 8:04:50 AM PST by mitchell001
The US Conservative Movement has come to a moment of truth. For the movement to survive and win, we conservatives must stop being politically correct and call a spade a spade. Rick Santorum is now HURTING the Conservative Movement. Let's join Jim Robinson of Free Republic, to ask, urge and definitely PRESSURE Rick Santorum to drop out and endorse Newt Gingrich. This is not time to play around with nice words, like "He has the right to stay in." Rick Santorum must be told that if he is a true Conservative, he must push the current Conservative Movement by preventing Romney from becoming the nominee. If Santorum stays in, he is allow Romney an opening to win. Romney's win will cripple the Conservative Movement and may allow Obama to win again. Tell Santorum, he NOW has a chance to be a Conservative HERO, if he drops out and endorses Newt Gingrich as the Conservative standard bearer. If Santorum stays in the campaign, he is destined to be a GOAT in the Conservative Movement. Calling Sarah Palin, Rick Perry, Herman Cain, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin and others, PLEASE LET'S BUILD THE PRESSURE ON SANTORUM TO DROP OUT, ENDORSE NEWT AND GO ON TO A ROWSING CONSERVATIVE VICTORY!
You know, I have to be suffer fools gladly sometimes and it is very hard when I look at the simple same math everyone else sees that yields the algebra. Santorum loses Florida.
Santorum loses Florida embarrassingly. Santorum outside of family issues claims to be poor life but his 9% is paving the way for a Florida cram down of a socialist, sympathetic to abortion.
You go sleep with that. I couldn’t. We’re realists here and we are embattled. The conservative who can WIN in Florida is pro-LIFE with wheels, Newt Gingrich. So don’t talk to me about Rick’s purity against Newt’s achievements.
The one propping up the abortion sympathizer, the individual mandate concocter, the socialist, is none other than Rick Santorum, who is found once again aiding and abetting the enemy, just as he dutifully raised his sorry banner for Arlen Spector against the conservative, and Specter who turned out to be the final vote FOR Obamacare.
Good people do nothing and evil triumphs. Right before your eyes. The test is Florida. Live with the results—that coming margin is your epitaph. In, or out.
see #21.
How ‘bout Newt endorsing Rick Santorum so we still have a choice. There is very little difference between Newt And Mitt. What there is is style over substance.
Point out to her how it gets nasty when someone other than Romney does well.
Gingrich both backed the individual mandate and funded planned parenthood...both arguments you used against Romney... and subsequently, Santorum somehow. I am trying to make sense and justify your arguments, but I don’t comprehend nonsense. You want Newt to win, because you think he can, say that...no need to spew a list of things, that also apply to your candidate, kind of weakens the points you were trying to make. Do I think Santorum will win Florida? No, I’m not a fool. I simply do not see people voting on conservative principle as some malicious act to somehow hurt the conservative movement. Vote for Gingrich by all means, he is by far better than Obama and Romney. Talking trash and turning people away from conservatives hurts the movement more than voting for Santorum, rationalize that.
It’d be better if Newt dropped out and endorsed Santorum, IMO
I will never deny Jesus by voting for Romney my first duty is to Jesus Christ I will vote 3rd party before I vote for Romney
You find the “trash” I talked and I can apologize.
You stay in the weeds picking nits to justify your support for Romney and against the only conservtive who has a chance to stop him, as you feign that fact in faux support for Santorum, or perhaps Paul.
Obfiscate
Divert
Target
Isolate
Attack
Carefully on FR, claim purity
A vote for Santorum is a vote for Romney and at least here, on FR, you fool no one.
YOU are not half pregnant as they say. You either are or you aren’t pregnant.
You either are, or are not, another tool for Romney and that’s made pretty clear.
End game here, for further entertaining your Alinsky attempt. You’re just way too obvious.
I thought I was having a rationale debate, but you seem to be unwilling, or perhaps incapable of factual debate. Everyone who supports social conservatism is obviously in the tank for Romney...they can’t you know, actually care about Santorum’s message. The fact all you have is name calling and mud slinging signifies just how strong your “argument” is.
Santorum has more effectively verbally jousted Romney than has Gingrich. Romney and Gingrich both supported TARP, both supported bailouts, both supported individual mandate. Romney favored abortion, Gingrich was not an abortionist, but he did fund planned parenthood, knowing where they stand on the issue. He still refuses to acknowledge life begins at conception.
How dare conservatives look elsewhere. Sit on your high horse, and decry conservaties and conservatism...because that doesn’t help Obama or anything.
See, we can both make stupid blanket statements that are silly. At least you can articulate your points well without having to go liberal and go for personal attacks....oh wait.
You’re obviously off the deep end here,
Gingrich did not fund Planned Parenthood any more than Rick Santorum funded them.
Rick also supported the bailouts, and MASSIVE expansions of entitlement programs.
And Newt does believe life begins at conception. That’s not even a credible attack.
Speaker Newt Gingrich said he believes that human life does not begin at conception but at “implantation and successful implantation” because if you say life begins at conception “you’re going to open up an extraordinary range of very difficult questions.”
If he backpedaled on this, good for him, but that quote is from 4DEC11.
Santorum opposed the auto bailout, the Freddie and Fannie bailout and the wall street bailout.
This argument is getting played out. Gingrich is awesome, so is Santorum. Again, my only problem is people saying Sanotrum is a plant and people voting for him are evil.
Rick Santorum - your family needs you. You are young enough that you can run again in a few years from now.
You’re right, a vote for Santorum is a vote for Romney. FR is all in for Newt Gingrich.
This fanciful romance with Santorum doesn’t work in the real world of politics.
It’s really past the time for Santorum to end his vanity run.
“Santorum is more of a conservative than Newt, so Gingrich staying in is detracting conservative votes from Santorum, hurting the conservative movement. Maybe Gingrich should drop out and support Santorum.”
I am a social conservative first. Normally, Rick would be my first choice over Newt. Everyone knows that Rick is more conservative than Newt on most issues (especially social/moral ones). However, these ARE NOT NORMAL TIMES. Rick will NOT win the primary against Romney, but Newt can. Plus, Newt is the best “overall” person to go head to head against Mr. Obama.
Perry had the good sense to get out. It is now time for Rick to do what is best for conservatism. Newt is flawed - no doubt. However, he is the only “conservative” candidate that can go the distance. Rick Santorum would best help conservatism by bowing out now and backing Newt.
Of course, if you don’t agree with my pragmatism, I cannot fault you. However, when the nomination goes to Mitt because Rick pulled enough votes from Newt....then you will be sorry.
Santorum is going to win the GOP nomination.
That's not accurate. Ben Nelson was the final vote. Does the term "Cornhusker Kickback" bring back any memories?
Would you casre to detail how Santorum wins any primary or caucus between now and Super Tuesday?
The people have vision beyond appearances, and they vote for him. :-)
Without any commentary on my part, your statement does not reflect pragmatism, but rather, illogic. Basically, what you said was that the most conservative candidate should drop out for the sake of conservatism. On the face of it, what kind of sense does that make?
“Basically, what you said was that the most conservative candidate should drop out for the sake of conservatism. On the face of it, what kind of sense does that make?”
Because Rick Santorum, God Bless him, cannot nor will not win the primary. All he can do is stop Newt from winning it. That gives us Romney. Newt does have a chance of winning. He is NOT as conservative as Rick....but he is so much more so than Romney. Hence the pragmatism.
IF one choses to vote for Rick Santorum purely on principle, I will not argue with them. I think they should - if for prinicle. However, IF they are voting for him because they think he can win....that is illogical because he cannot. Not as things are today.
So...if one is voting for Rick because of principle regardless of the outcome - then I say “good for you.” I admire a principled stand.
But....if one is voting for Rick because they think he can actually win - then I say you are not very wise. It is a futile gesture that will get Romney the nomination.
However, let me be clear. I really admire Senator Santorum....much more than Newt. I just think, that for this election cycle, Newt is the better overall choice.
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