Posted on 12/06/2011 1:18:37 AM PST by Impy
I know I now, everyone knows that already.
But come on, a team that already lost to LCU, at home, gets in over a 1-loss conference champ. It's a farce.
And why does the "Big" East get an automatic BCS bowl bid? Are they any better than the MWC? Bah.
I hope Alabama wins to make a further mockery of the whole thing.
Never posted anything in chat before.
What is LCU?
And do you know who beat Oklahoma State? Let’s not go around in circles forever. Alabama deserves the nod. They missed 4 field goals for crying out loud.
LOL there actually is one, Lubbock Christian University.
Sorry I disagree, we already heard this song, I’d like a new one. Bama had their chance, field goals count, ask Boise State. 1 team per conference in the title game baring extraordinary circumstances is my view.
I’m going to go out on a limb here and predict that LSU is going to destroy The Tide by two touchdowns minimum. Alabama had a chance to beat them in Tuscaloosa and let it get away. The second go-round ain’t gonna be close. Look what the Tigers have done the last two games, both against pretty good teams: spotted their opponents double-digit leads but still won going away.
If Oklahoma wanted a place in the BCS all they had to do was beat Iowa st (?). Then hands down they would be playing LSU. Alabama had victories against many powerful teams, as did Oklahoma st. Alabama only lost to a team, per the ratings, that should have beat them. Oklahoma st can't say that. I would say the strength of their victories makes them even. Their strength of their loss makes the story.
Guess this means Obama should get a second chance..
Playoffs won’t answer the debate either. There will be bickering and sour grapes because somebody is left out. Just look at March madness. The let 64 teams in the tournament and there are always that group saying they were done wrong since they were not selected. That aside I favour a bowl/playoff with the top 8 bcs teams. Not all conferences are equal. So I would say no automatic bids, period. If the top 6 teams are SEC teams then that is what it is. Bama is much better than OK st.
This year, there shouldn’t be a national championship game. LSU is #1. Nobody disagrees with that. The argument is over who is #2. Some years there is one team that is clearly #1 and the championship game is superfluous, some years there are two teams each of which is a valid choice for #1, and the current set-up is perfect. And, some years there are three valid contenders for #1 and the current set-up leaves something to be desired. If there were a four team playoff, that wouldn’t settle things. It would shift the argument to who is #4 (versus #5). This year, the controversy would be whether a conference champion, Oregon, should be snubbed in favor of a runner-up, Stanford, that it beat during the regular season. With 64 teams or more in the playoffs, as in basketball, there will be belly-aching about the bubble teams, but, in the end, when all the low ranks are eliminated in the initial rounds, there is no argument about the eventual winner. They have a playoff system for other NCAA divisions, but nobody has figured out how to preserve the bowl games and also have a playoff system for the very top schools. With regard to the Big East, I think the West Virginia v. Clemson match-up in the Orange Bowl makes a very attractive bowl game.
I agree with you. This year the argument is about who get’s the right to get beat by LSU. OSU should be thankful, at least now the get the chance to finish at #2...instead of 4th or lower.
I agree, the BCS is a joke and there should be a playoff like the FCS. It is of my opinion, however, that Alabama and LSC are the 2 best teams, but they should have to prove it by beating Oklahoma State, Boise State, Stanford, et al.
Chokelahoma State should consider themselves fortunate NOT to have to play LSU.
Bama is much better than OK st.
Then maybe Bama should play OK St. and then the winner play LSU. But if Bama beats LSU aren’t they tied at one win each. Then they should play again for 2 out of 3 to determine the best.
While I am for a playoff system (maybe a +1 system), I am pretty sure the BCS did its job this year. They are tasked with matching the two best teams for a championship game. LSU and Alabama are the two best teams. LSU barely escaped Alabama last month and will probably have another very close game with them in January.
I’ve actually found myself following the FCS more closely these days. It helps that I went to an FCS school, but I honestly like the system much better. Unlike the FBS/BCS, a loss doesn’t sink the entire season’s championship hopes. There is a good sized playoff of 20 teams, top 12 get first round byes, and better teams are rewarded with home games whith the championship game on a neutral field. The FBS is frustrating as a fan. You get a key injury or have a bad game and lose a game or two and your chances for a championship are over. As we saw this year, a team like Boise State or Houston has zero margin of error. They have to have a perfect season or they are relegated to a third rate bowl game against a middle of the pack BCS conference team if they are lucky.
Playoffs won’t answer the debate either. There will be bickering and sour grapes because somebody is left out.
Maybe the BCS is satisfying the problem to the people who do matter.
A playoff system in collegiate football isn't workable because the playoff system would be nearly as long and far more grueling than the regular season. Many teams play cupcakes during the regular season for reasons of conditioning, injuries and the fact that the players are supposed to be students first. With sudden death playoffs similar to basketball, the ultimate winner has to play six additional games? Furthermore, that would crush the Bowl system since it is nearly impossible for alumni and other fans (in stadium filling numbers) to make travel plans at the last minute to attend what might be their team's last game in some far flung city.
Then we need to look at society's present condition in terms of competition. We now have two generations of people who have been raised in the Participation Trophy Age. We have abandoned any form of reasonable metric to determine winners and loses (at least from can be gathered from reading BCS threads) and even winning a game isn't considered a fair indicator.
So, IMHO, we have the perfect "playoff" system now in the BCS. It works similar in principle to a firing squad in which no one can make a certain claim of responsibility for the execution. The BCS uses all kinds of convoluted formulas, illogical rules, injections of "fairness", bribery, craven greed, subjective opinion and other totally lousy metrics for ascertaining who plays and who sits at home watching it all on TV. Its convoluted and illogical so that no one can take responsibility/blame for the outcome and we can all be angry about a non-personal system rather than hanging the NCAA commissioner from a lamp-post when our team doesn't make the cut.
The BCS is about as "American" as a system could get. Forget all of this failed competition and "Winners and losers" claptrap. We are Occupy Football Stadiums now.
Everything will change when the first conference leaps to 16 teams and a couple of others follow.
LSU is indeed and fact the #1 team. A review of their schedule shows that during the season, including the SEC Championsip game, they defeated 8 teams that were ranked in the top 25 at the time they played. Average rank 12.13. Six of those teams are ranked in the top 25; average rank 12.83.
‘Bama defeated 3 top 25 teams when played; average rank 16.33. Final BCS 3 teams; average rank 17.67.
OSU defeated 4 ranked teams; average 15. Final BCS 3 ranked for an average of 15.33. (Texas A&M fell out of the top 25.)
I have to say the Cowboys were my preferred opponent, but some elephant gumbo on 1/9/12 will still be pretty sweet!
Geaux Tigahs!
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