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This is a very interesting development with huge implications if accurate. Random thoughts:

1. It makes it harder for E-cat skeptics to claim this whole thing is a hoax by Rossi. Do they really still think Defkalion is a puppet he controls? (Alternately, I would propose Rossi is a front man for someone else running the show, such as the Mafia - but why make such a complex soap opera of such a scam?)

2. If this is true, it could turn into an ugly and litigious battle for control of Ecat technology. That could distract those involved from developing and commercializing the Ecat, which would be bad.

3. But more likely, this is going to spur competition to get to market with the best products and with lower prices. It's one thing to compete against traditional technologies. But if there are two or more sources of fusion reactors, we'll be able to get them very cheaply in years to come. We may be heating our homes with Ecats sooner than we think... !

1 posted on 11/29/2011 9:01:17 AM PST by Liberty1970
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To: Liberty1970
My prediction.

The only home heating that will happen as a result of the e-cat will be through using the press releases as kindling.

2 posted on 11/29/2011 9:03:54 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Kevmo

*PING*

Defkalion says they will make a big announcement tomorrow. Shall we all take a shot at guessing here at what the announcement will consist of? A round of applause to whomever ends up being most accurate in their guessing!


3 posted on 11/29/2011 9:09:39 AM PST by Liberty1970 (Skepticism and Close-mindedness are two very different things.)
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To: Liberty1970
"I know what he’s got in the reactor, I know everything. It was a spectroscopy (Greek: ‘fasmatoscopy’) made by the university of Siena. It was an equipment made by the University of Siena. It understands everything that’s inside the reactor. So we know the components.” "

AS A PHYSICIST, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THIS STATEMENT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL- IT IS SCIENTIFIC-SOUNDING GOBBLEDYGOOK

4 posted on 11/29/2011 9:11:25 AM PST by Mr. K (Physically unable to proofreed <--- oops, see?)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want on.


9 posted on 11/29/2011 9:34:47 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want on.


10 posted on 11/29/2011 9:35:09 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want in.


11 posted on 11/29/2011 9:36:51 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want in.


12 posted on 11/29/2011 9:37:08 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want in.


14 posted on 11/29/2011 9:37:24 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want in.


15 posted on 11/29/2011 9:37:36 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want in.


16 posted on 11/29/2011 9:38:15 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970; Kevmo

If there’s an ecat ping list I want in.


17 posted on 11/29/2011 9:38:32 AM PST by TLOne (All terrorists want is for us to bow and worship their god. Oh, and to let them rule.)
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To: Liberty1970
1. It makes it harder for E-cat skeptics to claim this whole thing is a hoax by Rossi. Do they really still think Defkalion is a puppet he controls? (Alternately, I would propose Rossi is a front man for someone else running the show, such as the Mafia - but why make such a complex soap opera of such a scam?)
This wouldn't particularly surprise me. It certainly fits in with his previous history with Petrol Dragon (using a bogus invention to launder money).

Anyone who thinks it's "too complex" for a scam has never researched scams. The goal is to convince gullible investors that they need to get in now, without carefully reviewing the business, because otherwise they will miss out.

Also, keep in mind that both Defkalion and AmpEnergo were set up just for this show. As I've documented already, Rossi's company and AmpEnergo are run out of the same office, with the same phone number. That suggests that they aren't really separate companies at all, but only "paper" companies to make it look like there's serious business deals going on when it fact they're aren't.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rossi uses this as an "excuse" to stop offering E-Cats for sale, since he has to "defend" himself from Defkalion. This will allow him to continue hustling investors while he is excused from actually producing a working E-Cat.

22 posted on 11/29/2011 9:55:20 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Liberty1970
1. It makes it harder for E-cat skeptics to claim this whole thing is a hoax by Rossi.

Not for me it doesn't. Until I see these selling like hot cakes at Home Depot and getting rave reviews, this smells like three day old fish.

23 posted on 11/29/2011 10:00:09 AM PST by BipolarBob (Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world and she walks into mine.)
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To: Liberty1970
The catalyst is no secret:

Rossi does NOT have a legitimate reason to not allows third party tests with him or a rep around to ensure that they don't get Rossi's secret catalyst. The problem with that though, from basic chemistry, a catalyst is not used up in a reaction. What is my point? Well, Rossi handed out two samples, the before and after samples. If this is real (it's not) then all they have to do is assay the after samples and figure out the secret sauce, it's that easy. So, that can't be his real reason, he's already given it away and I expect him to have a B.A's knowledge of chemistry to know he handed out the catalyst so what is the real reason?

25 posted on 11/29/2011 10:03:01 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Liberty1970
It makes it harder for E-cat skeptics to claim this whole thing is a hoax by Rossi.

Actually, it fits very well with the scam model. Rossi has declared a moratorium on further public testing, and has gone to market. IF it's a scam, then the time to go to market is right now before the jig is really up.

27 posted on 11/29/2011 10:11:57 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Hold your face to the light, even though for the moment you do not see.)
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To: Liberty1970
[Greek company Defkalion claims to have "the formula"]

Why, of course they do. And that one actually works as advertized!


33 posted on 11/29/2011 11:44:09 AM PST by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: Liberty1970
Just more noise from the con boys.


46 posted on 11/30/2011 9:01:27 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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