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Cyclist Shoots Dog on Thanksgiving Day
UPI ^ | Nov. 26, 2011

Posted on 11/26/2011 6:20:15 PM PST by nickcarraway

A gun-toting man on a bicycle in South Florida shot and killed a Doberman Saturday, saying the dog was threatening him.

Dan Abou, who was training the 2-year-old to be a therapy dog, acknowledged Scooby was in his unfenced front yard without a leash, the South Florida Sun Sentinel reported. But he described Scooby as a gentle animal and said many dogs are allowed out without restraints in his neighborhood in Davie with no problems.

"It's very alarming that someone would be riding a bike with a gun at 11 a.m. on Thanksgiving Day," Abou said Friday. "That man came here looking for trouble. I still can't believe this."

Police were investigating the shooting. Investigators say the cyclist had a permit for his gun.

The Doberman Rescue League of Broward took Scooby in after the emaciated dog was found on the street. Abou adopted him in July and planned to use him as a therapy dog at senior citizens centers.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: doberman; dog; gooddog; goodshot; waytogo; welldone
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To: meyer
I just turned at him, waved my arms at him and yelled “rarrarrarr ruff ruff” at him (dog language).

Tip: please don't try that with a pit bull. :-)

41 posted on 11/26/2011 8:33:02 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SkyDancer

“He should have had either pepper spray or ammonia in a spray bottle.”

Or a fly swatter,
or a bottle of Listerine,
or a bag of Cheetos,
or a recording of Slim Pickens
or a picture of Nanny Pelosi
or ....


42 posted on 11/26/2011 8:43:32 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Ditter

Yes, a man brought a beautiful Golden Retriever into a doctor’s office the other day while we were there.

It was kind of startling to see a dog and I immediately thought ‘service dog.’ But then I realized the owner was not handicapped so I talked to him and he explained that this was a therapy dog.

Therapy dogs have to be registered and take stringent tests to ascertain how calm and friendly they are. Once they pass the test, they get a dog tag certifying them and they can go in anywhere.

And, yes, all breeds work, but labs and goldens have the best disposition for it.


43 posted on 11/26/2011 8:46:19 PM PST by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: nickcarraway
I have no sympathy for dog owners who fail to control their animals. They should know better in a densely packed urban environment.

I've been mauled, bitten, and chased by vicious dogs of all sizes--I run. I always carry a small SA pistol. When the attack happens there is little time to assess: should I use the lethal or non-lethal deterrent?

Here is the issue: Should I allow the animal tear my flesh and let modern medicine patch things up? Absurd. The injury could be irreparable. So, attacking animals get shot.

P.S. Spotted a very large coyote the other day. Spotted two the day before. It's not just domestic animals that might be a threat. We haven't even begun to discuss 2-legged predators.

44 posted on 11/26/2011 8:52:41 PM PST by nonsporting
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To: nickcarraway

Why aren’t we told the cyclist’s name? Since we are told that he is a licensed gun owner, per minimum, the police know who he is.

I’m no expert in etymology, but the name “Abou” appears to be Arabic. I wonder if that holds a clue to a possible motive for this apparently unprovoked shooting?

It seems to me that a left-wing paper would have a vested interest in publishing the name of someone who uses a gun in what either was unlawful dispatch of an owner’s property (shooting a dog in its own yard) or lawful self-defense (assuming the unleashed dog left the yard to pursue the bicyclist). Yet, they do not.

The question is: why not?


45 posted on 11/26/2011 8:58:00 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: Rembrandt

Thing too, where did he think or didn’t think where the bullet might go after hitting the dog?


46 posted on 11/26/2011 9:09:33 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: Salamander

I expect that you are more familiar with doberman rescues than I am.

Would it be safe to assume that Scooby had most likely been trained and socialized before being adopted?


47 posted on 11/26/2011 9:12:35 PM PST by Altariel (`)
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To: nickcarraway

Loose dogs are very dangerous when one is on a bike. They run at the wheels just like they do on a car and snap at you too.I know I’ve had one that close but was able to give it a good kick in the snout that sent it running home.


48 posted on 11/26/2011 10:21:42 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: Poison Pill

I suspect that the dog jumped the fence to get to the bike....


49 posted on 11/26/2011 10:24:18 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: SkyDancer

According to the mail man we know that stuff does not stop 100% of dogs.For all we know he sprayed the dog first then shot it when that didn’t work.


50 posted on 11/26/2011 10:25:16 PM PST by chris_bdba
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To: RetiredArmy

Velo dog pistol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velo-dog


51 posted on 11/26/2011 10:32:08 PM PST by MCF
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To: muawiyah
There are wild dog packs in rural Southern Indiana. My dad rescued one as a pup and raised it as a pet.

I was in Southern Indiana in the early 60s. I remember seeing one of these puppies. It was covered with reddish brown and black spots. It looked like those wild dogs in Africa that natives have. Really creepy. I understand how they could scare somebody.

(Crane Division (NSWC Crane), located in Crane, Indiana)

52 posted on 11/26/2011 10:34:23 PM PST by Daaave ("Every time I go to town, The boys keep kickin' my dog around.")
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To: Altariel

Extremely so.

They’re well aware of societal prejudices and the rescues have to pass behavioral tests before being adopted out.

The [rare] dogs who don’t pass usually wind up staying at the shelter or a foster home with somebody who has experience handling the breed.

Of course, there are always gutless cowards who think *every* Dobermann is “threatening them”.


53 posted on 11/26/2011 10:40:26 PM PST by Salamander (I'm Wounded, Old And Treacherous.)
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To: GreaterSwiss
I don’t have issue with the gun but how it was used.. why not cary a can of mace too? animals get excited when u bike or rollerblade. mine does. if he got lose i wouldn’t want him shot.

Just like people, some dogs will attack through a mist of mace and do you serious damage. Also, there are a lot of problems with Mace, such as wind blowing it away from the target and even back on yourself, and it's extreme short range. Particularly against a dog because it can move so fast, if the Mace defense fails, there will not be time to fall back to a lethal weapon.

I'm a dog lover, but a doberman running free is a problem waiting to happen. This is the owner's fault, not the shooter's.

54 posted on 11/26/2011 10:47:57 PM PST by expat1000
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To: vetvetdoug
The man that allowed the dog to run loose and unattended should be charged with negligence and endangering the life of others. I get tired of irresponsible hand wringing bed wetters getting their panties in a wad and blaming everyone else when they are the ones at fault.

Fifty years ago most dogs ran loose without serious incident. Then bed wetters came along demanding lease laws. Now you want to make criminals out of those who don't conform perfectly to your phobia. The real amazing fact is that those "evil" Russians actually tolerate about 26,000 feral dogs roaming Moscow. S trip to Moscow should send you into an apocalyptic fit.

55 posted on 11/26/2011 11:29:04 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: nickcarraway
The dog should not have been left outside unsupervised and I love Dobermans.
56 posted on 11/27/2011 12:15:04 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: nickcarraway

I remember many years ago, when I was a young lady a friend and I were walking down the sidewalk singing gently together the song “In The Name of Jesus Demons have to flee. In The Name of Jesus we have the victory”. A big German Shepherd dog came charging at us from between two houses. It looked like it meant business. We kept on singing and walking but turned our heads in it’s direction as we sang “In The Name of Jesus demons have to flee”. It was coming full charge but turned and ran like a scalded cat as fast as it could away from us. I wonder if it saw a big Angel or something. It was the power of God that saved us from being attacked that day.


57 posted on 11/27/2011 1:34:43 AM PST by Bellflower (Judas Iscariot, first democrat, robber, held the money bag, claimed to care for poor: John 12:4-6)
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To: Poison Pill; VRWCmember
I would be curious to know if the guy on the bike was either a gang banger or a cop.

Gang Bangers don’t bother with permits much and cops don’t need them.

Police were investigating the shooting. Investigators say the cyclist had a permit for his gun.

58 posted on 11/27/2011 2:18:33 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts
About 35 years back USPS and the postal unions agreed that when a carrier or other USPS worker was bit by a dog the USPS would sue the owner for the replacement costs while the worker was convalescing.

The usual load of postal dog bites had been about 60,000 per year ~ and that dropped to nearly 0 in a short time as folks learned that "little Foo Foo" could be one of the world's costliest dogs.

The leash law thing has come along behind that action ~ since the data shows that people can control their animals if the stakes are made high enough.

Now, does that mean bicyclists should be shooting dogs? Probably not ~ after all, a little bite could mean a trip to the courthouse and that'd make sure that dog never came back, nor would the replacement dog ~ although in this case the dog owner probably didn't have much worth suing him for.

59 posted on 11/27/2011 4:20:33 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: altura
My Therapy Dog Hairy and I have been to two convalescent home and he is very well received. We haven't been to a hospital yet but our group has several hospitals on the list that will let us visit. There are specified days when the group is allowed and the visit is for one hour. The people who have been there for a while and don't have dogs at home even if they were there are so grateful that you have brought a sweet dog for them to love on for a while.
60 posted on 11/27/2011 4:50:58 AM PST by Ditter
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