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Supercool (water, that is)
University of Utah ^ | November 23, 2011

Posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:10 PM PST by decimon

Utah chemists: Water doesn't have to freeze until minus 55 Fahrenheit

SALT LAKE CITY -- We drink water, bathe in it and we are made mostly of water, yet the common substance poses major mysteries. Now, University of Utah chemists may have solved one enigma by showing how cold water can get before it absolutely must freeze: 55 degrees below zero Fahrenheit.

That's 87 degrees Fahrenheit colder than what most people consider the freezing point of water, namely, 32 F.

Supercooled liquid water must become ice at minus 55 F not just because of the extreme cold, but because the molecular structure of water changes physically to form tetrahedron shapes, with each water molecule loosely bonded to four others, according to the new study by chemists Valeria Molinero and Emily Moore.

The findings suggest this structural change from liquid to "intermediate ice" explains the mystery of "what determines the temperature at which water is going to freeze," says Molinero, an assistant professor at the University of Utah and senior author of the study, published in the Thursday, Nov. 24 issue of the journal Nature.

"This intermediate ice has a structure between the full structure of ice and the structure of the liquid," she adds. "We're solving a very old puzzle of what is going on in deeply supercooled water."

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1 posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:12 PM PST by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv; neverdem

Cold as ice ping.


2 posted on 11/23/2011 8:15:47 PM PST by decimon
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To: decimon

Hot water freezes faster than cold water.


3 posted on 11/23/2011 8:18:37 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: decimon

cryogenics?


4 posted on 11/23/2011 8:19:46 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: decimon

the mystery of "what determines the temperature at which water is going to freeze

Sometimes I am amazed by what we don't know rather than what we do know.

We don't know when water will freeze, we understand very little about gravity, we haven't a clue about the composition of space, and no one knows what Newt is going to say next.

5 posted on 11/23/2011 8:23:26 PM PST by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: GeronL
cryogenics?

"In physics, cryogenics is the study of the production of very low temperature (below −150 °C, −238 °F or 123 K)..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenics

6 posted on 11/23/2011 8:32:50 PM PST by decimon
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To: bunkerhill7

Sometimes. The Mpemba Effect.


7 posted on 11/23/2011 8:33:19 PM PST by stormer
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University of Utah - they have salt in their water there, so this result is not surprising.


8 posted on 11/23/2011 9:17:54 PM PST by Rio
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To: decimon

I noticed the other morning that clear distilled water in a motorcycle radiator with no antifreeze was not frozen with the air temp at 20F and the radiator metal temp at 26. Have seen this many times before and so am not worried about freezing (at least damaging hard freezing) in this temperature range. Has been replaced with non-aqueous propylene glycol now.


9 posted on 11/23/2011 9:36:12 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: decimon
Next on the list will be discovery of Ice-9.

We're doomed.

10 posted on 11/23/2011 10:11:08 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: decimon

On sunny days, I have seen water running in the streets from snow melt at -26 F.


11 posted on 11/24/2011 2:38:13 AM PST by Artie
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To: decimon

If ice were heavier than water, lakes and rivers would freeze from the bottom up, and they would freeze solid. Very few fish would be able to survive that. As it is, ice provides a layer of insulation on top of bodies of water, so that the bulk remains liquid, except in shallow bodies of water and regions near the polar caps.

Water is a very strange chemical. Without its weird properties, life would be impossible.


12 posted on 11/24/2011 5:55:59 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: decimon; AdmSmith; bvw; callisto; ckilmer; dandelion; ganeshpuri89; gobucks; KevinDavis; ...

Thanks decimon.


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13 posted on 11/25/2011 6:09:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Semper911
O but I like what he said in this clip! ...

Newt raggin' on the Super Committee

14 posted on 11/25/2011 8:17:46 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Rocky
H2O is a lopsided molecule, so it 'lines up' as it freezes/slows it's motional equilibrium. The O has 'mickey mouse ear hydrogens.
15 posted on 11/25/2011 8:20:34 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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