Posted on 11/18/2011 9:55:32 PM PST by smokingfrog
It is the debate that has been raging between generations of science fiction fans.
But Star Trek star William Shatner believed he had delivered the coup de grace two months ago when he delivered a stinging critique he thought proved his franchise was superior.
But there is a new hope for Star Wars fans, as original cast member Carrie Fisher has struck back with a rebuke that could return the Jedi-filled universe back to prominence.
In a somewhat rambling YouTube video, the Princess Leia star let rip on the rival sci fi favourite.
She said: 'They are not in the same league. i mean they have the word star in the title, and there is space travel.
'Where do they go to, Klingon? It just sounds like a laundry detergent.'
The successful actress and author had a list of grievances with the television and movie franchise that she said made it inferior, including lacklustre visuals, make-up, toys and video games.
She said: 'Show me a special effect, maybe they are just effects, they are not called special effects.
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The closest the Star Trek franchise has is... Harry Mudd? (Equally annoying, to be sure, but an annoying alien tops an annoying human, as annoying humans are so common.)
the infowarrior
"Work on the series came to an end when the proposed Paramount Television Service folded. However, following the success of the science fiction movies Star Wars and Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the planned pilot episode entitled "In Thy Image"[3] was adapted into a theatrical production, Star Trek: The Motion Picture."--wikipedia
Hard to believe so much of it was used in the first season of Lost In Space, and that John Williams scored the show for all three years.
Usually regarded as the very best of all the Star Wars movies.
Definitely. The first season was a bit too formulaic for me, but by season 3, the show really hit its stride.
And yet, no one has yet mentioned “BABYLON 5”.
Couldn’t be beat for story and continuity, with some great actors, several of whom have now passed on.
“but an annoying alien tops an annoying human, as annoying humans are so common ....”
LOL. You calling me common?
Actually that’s not Forbidden Planet music, that’s The Day the Earth Stood Still music by Bernard Herrmann. Also, back then they usually scored several episodes and then just reused the cues over and over, so Williams wasn’t composing new music every week (the way, for example, Mark Snow did for every week of The X-Files).
I agree.
If you want to see a rush job on a "cashing-in" attempt at sci-fi, look no further than "Moonraker."
Also, Alexander Courage, Leigh Harline, Cyril Mockridge, Gerald Fried, Herman Stein,Fred Steiner, and Leith Stevens all scored Lost in Space eps, too (or their library music was used, not sure which).
You're right. I mixed them up.
True... a very original plot.. carried out beautifully..
with an excellent cast.. you have acting talent..
But producing talent is also needed.. rare these days..
Never hear of talent to be a producer...
So many strong SF plots are not made..
Williams usually got the sole screen credit, perhaps because of the two themes (talk about night and day.)
Love seeing the original “The Day the Earth Stood Still,” because of its understatement.Two excellent actors in the lead roles, and very dependable character actors in the minor roles. Plus it gave a glimpse of a Dcv that has long since disappeared. Only odd thing is that so few blacks are seen in what was after all still a Southern city. BA/C.
If so, I must certainly include myself, since the last time I looked in a mirror, I was definitely human, and have it on good authority in certain quarters that I'm truly annoying ;P
the infowarrior
They didn’t use any of the work for the TV show in the movie—look at the photos you posted, those were old costumes, and if you see the pre-production art the sets were completely different from what they used (I think they used the engineering design). Ralph McQuarrie even designed a new Enterprise, but when they went to the movie they went with, I think, Andy Probert as a designer (I know he worked on it, not sure if he was the only designer). When Robert Wise came aboard they basically started from scratch. The script they adapted was being rewritten up until the last days of shooting. Plus they lost tons of time when Robert Abel couldn’t deliver the FX and they had to hire Dykstra and Trumbull (who used Paramount’s time problem to get out of a contract he had with them).
The TV series was dead. When Star Wars was first a hit, they even thought they were lucky to have dropped the idea, since now the SF was over. But when Star Wars was still selling tickets even after Close Encounters came and went in the theaters, they decided it was time.
Some of the rejected scripts—well, the one they used was awful, but I’m not sure how good the others might have been. A couple of the TV scripts were used on Next Generation episodes.
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