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You never know what you might find until you look. This could get interesting.
1 posted on 11/18/2011 11:54:04 AM PST by TN4Liberty
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To: TN4Liberty

Einstein’s gonna be pissed.


2 posted on 11/18/2011 11:56:12 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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ping


3 posted on 11/18/2011 11:57:49 AM PST by TN4Liberty (My tagline disappeared so this is my new one.)
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I tried looking up this information, but found nothing much: what makes light travel at any given speed; what governs it? Is it the maximum speed of an electron in orbit around a nucleus?


4 posted on 11/18/2011 11:58:33 AM PST by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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Everyone be sure to keep this in mind the next time some blowhard claims that “the science is settled” regarding global warming.


5 posted on 11/18/2011 11:58:49 AM PST by jpl (The government spent another half a million bucks in the time it just took you to read this tagline.)
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One of the particles viewed with an electron microscope...


6 posted on 11/18/2011 11:59:45 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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So? The speed of light is something most people will never grasp. Of the few who can, most of them don’t care. It is interesting to a miniscule portion of the planet, just something else for the 99% to protest.


7 posted on 11/18/2011 12:01:14 PM PST by Phlap (REDNECK@LIBARTS.EDU)
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8 posted on 11/18/2011 12:01:45 PM PST by Adams (Fight on!)
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I’ve never believed in the light-speed limit. Ever.

Not that I had a scientific reason for it....it just sounds stupid to me.

It’d be cool if the experiments are confirmed by other teams: I don’t mind being right for no reason other than I totally guessed the answer.....


9 posted on 11/18/2011 12:01:54 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Public employee unions are the barbarian hordes of our time.)
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No experiment had seen anything moving faster than light, which zips along at 186,000 miles per second.

Next Wednesday afternoon on the interstates leaving Atlanta the cops won't bother pulling over anyone doing less than that.

16 posted on 11/18/2011 12:07:52 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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more tests are needed, and on other experimental setups.

Quite right. This second experiment presumably measures time-of-flight in the same way as the first one did - and I'm betting there's an incorrect assumption (or perhaps subtle equipment malfunction) in that measurement.

17 posted on 11/18/2011 12:08:02 PM PST by JustSayNoToNannies
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Proves at least what I have always thought could happen, is that we could actually be going down a branch of physics that, however suitable for many purposes, is actually a rabbit trail.

Should this be accepted as good data, it opens up a whole new debate as to how did this happen, who did what and why, is this similar to the East Anglia debacle, to further one’s own carrer, political, etc.


18 posted on 11/18/2011 12:08:06 PM PST by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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Just wondering how you can measure something that goes faster than the speed of light with instruments that only can only measure up to the speed of light.

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23 posted on 11/18/2011 12:13:27 PM PST by SkyDancer ('If you want to learn to love better, you should start with a friend who you hate ")
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I’ve never bought into the SOL limit.


24 posted on 11/18/2011 12:14:36 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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What does Sheldon from “The Big Bang Theory” have to say about this?


28 posted on 11/18/2011 12:19:33 PM PST by Fair Paul
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32 posted on 11/18/2011 12:26:02 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (For years the Left protested "the occupation of Iraq"- now they want to "Occupy" all across the US)
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“Men make plans...God laughs”


33 posted on 11/18/2011 12:26:12 PM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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...more tests are needed, and on other experimental setups.

This is how science is supposed to be done. Get a result. Try to determine how it could be in error. Fix that. Get the result again. Get a different team with a different set of equipment. Replicate the experiment. Compare the data. Check, question, recheck.

Now, compare that to how "Climate Science" is done. Invent a hypothesis. If the data do not support the hypothesis, discard the data. If anyone questions the hypothesis, label him/her a "Denier" and refuse to let him/her publish. Design a computer model to "confirm" the hypothesis. Refuse to let anyone see the code for the model.

36 posted on 11/18/2011 12:30:14 PM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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Have they accounted for the GPS errors? The GPS satellites have relavistic errors in the same range as the apparent ‘faster than light’ measurement; which would explain why they seem ‘faster than the speed of light’ but aren’t.

If your accurate clocks are skewed by 32 nanoseconds, due to GPS relativistic errors, this will more than make up for the reported increase.

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-10/dutch-physicist-says-special-relativity-explains-faster-light-neutrinos


38 posted on 11/18/2011 12:34:20 PM PST by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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The ultimate speed is the speed of light (in a perfect vacuum).

These experiments were not carried out in a vacuum. Other particles, which are less affected by the material around them - such as neutrinos - may well move faster than light in that partular medium.

42 posted on 11/18/2011 12:41:37 PM PST by reg45 (I'm not angry that Lincoln freed the slaves. I'm angry that Franklin Roosevelt bought them back.)
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The speed of light is approximately 186,000 miles per second, and what is "seen" now ... is something that happened at some earlier time.

Given that something can move faster than the speed of light ... might be used to look back in time. What we see NOW is always something that happened in the past

Folks, we're looking at technology that might provide humans with time travel observations, the ability to see things that happened in the past.

And, perhaps, the future?

44 posted on 11/18/2011 12:42:35 PM PST by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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