Posted on 11/18/2011 11:53:59 AM PST by TN4Liberty
I don’t miss him.
Trafficant was entertaining but he was still a crook rat.
There is no way! Einstein himself used this in computations. Science cannot be wrong again. Say it isn’t so. Isn’t anything settled anymore.
I’ve never bought into the SOL limit.
I try to keep up on some of this stuff, as much as I can, but I don’t have the advanced math to follow it all.
Many of the newer interpretations say that not only is FTL possible, it’s also necessary.
Some of them are Kaluza-Klein models with a few more dimensions than 5, it’s looking like they don’t need 11 or more. String theory is actually dying on the vine, sort of, as more classical explanations are starting to fill the void.
Well, imagine a distance whereby light needs 1 hour to travel the distance but it takes only a half hour.
What does Sheldon from “The Big Bang Theory” have to say about this?
I would just guard against saying that this new discovery is now the new upper limit of what is possible in terms of speed.
distance / time
“I tried looking up this information, but found nothing much: what makes light travel at any given speed; what governs it? Is it the maximum speed of an electron in orbit around a nucleus?”
It comes from examining Maxwell’s equations, which completely define electromagnetic behavior. The speed of light (c) is an integral part of these equations...and is necessary to get all the rest of the measurement bits to fit. Einstein’s gift was to examine how one would have to “warp” these equations in order to explain what you would see if you observed an EM wave whilst moving...and the warping is the famous time change. The “speed limit” also arose from these equtions. Now, this speed limit is attached to things with mass, and also appears to be associated with the transmission of “information”.
We’ve already got examples of “something” happening at greater than light speeds when examining quantum interconnectedness...but this “something” does not carry information with it.
Things out there are much weirder than we know...which is what makes physics so fascinating.
“Men make plans...God laughs”
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." (Hamlet Act 1, Scene 5).
I never cease to be amazed at the overweaning arrogance of scientists who think that they can "know" the mysteries of God's universe.
I think I recall reading that they didn't take the orbital motion of the GPS satellites into account, with respect to the difference in inertial reference frame of the GPS clock and the surface clock. They apparently calculated as if the GPS clocks were on the ground, not in orbit.
Ah yes, here we are:
Faster-Than-Light Neutrinos Result of GPS Movement
The motion, once factored in, came to almost exactly the time difference they measured in the neutrino arrival.
This is how science is supposed to be done. Get a result. Try to determine how it could be in error. Fix that. Get the result again. Get a different team with a different set of equipment. Replicate the experiment. Compare the data. Check, question, recheck.
Now, compare that to how "Climate Science" is done. Invent a hypothesis. If the data do not support the hypothesis, discard the data. If anyone questions the hypothesis, label him/her a "Denier" and refuse to let him/her publish. Design a computer model to "confirm" the hypothesis. Refuse to let anyone see the code for the model.
Have they accounted for the GPS errors? The GPS satellites have relavistic errors in the same range as the apparent ‘faster than light’ measurement; which would explain why they seem ‘faster than the speed of light’ but aren’t.
If your accurate clocks are skewed by 32 nanoseconds, due to GPS relativistic errors, this will more than make up for the reported increase.
LLS
Electrons really don’t orbit around the nucleus of an atom.
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