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After the laughable flirtation with Bachmann, the wishful thinking on Palin and Christie, the Paulbots, the Perry bubble and the Cain fling...there stands Mr. Newt.

I'm not a Gingrich fan and there are questions I would need answered before going all in for him as the nominee. But there he stands as the voting is set to begin next month. He is clearly the best debater, more conservative than Romney and hates the MSM. Was the candidate of our dreams there all along?

What say you FR? I'm not Gingrich fan

1 posted on 11/14/2011 1:50:06 PM PST by Patrick1
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Allow me to answer your questions on the beltway insider Newt

First Amend, NOT!!!
Newt Gingrich Co-Sponsored the 1987 Pro-Fairness Doctrine Bill
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/29/newt-gingrich-co-sponsored-the-1987-pro-fairness-doctrine-bill/

Howard Dean Endorses Newt
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-07-25/politics/gingrich.dean_1_newt-gingrich-gingrich-candidacy-howard-dean?_s=PM:POLITICS

Stop the Insanity say no to Newt
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-11-10/politics/30381368_1_newt-gingrich-conservatives-herman-cain

Newt with his BFFS Princess Nancy, Kerry and Al Sharpton
http://www.mofopolitics.com/2011/11/09/friendly-reminder-newt-gingrich-is-a-rino-wimp-and-a-scumbag/

Newt loves HC mandates always has
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/05/13/newt-gingrich-long-time-supporter-of-health-insurance-mandates/3/


2 posted on 11/14/2011 1:54:20 PM PST by Fred (no job no house no gas no food no problem Obama 2012)
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Neither am I. He is a fantastic debater -- I loved his jousting with Pelley the other night -- but his actions have rarely lived up to his words. He wants very much to be seen as a uniter, and, in D.C., that usually means Republicans give in to Democrats.

Great mind, though. I wouldn't take that away from him. Just won't vote for him if I have a choice.

3 posted on 11/14/2011 1:55:10 PM PST by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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I am a Gingrich fan, but haven't considered him for president because of some of his faux pasThat said, he is clearly the most intelligent of the GOP field. Like many highly intelligent people, he is often strange and unpredictable.

He would mop the floor with Obama in a debate, but how would he govern? Frankly, I just don't know.

4 posted on 11/14/2011 1:56:41 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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newt is untrustworthy and when you need him most... he will stab you in the back. Do you really have to ask? Is he better than obama? Yes... but so is a case of herpes.

LLS

5 posted on 11/14/2011 1:56:57 PM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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I am a Gingrich fan, but haven't considered him for president because of some of his faux pas and his personal failures.

That said, he is clearly the most intelligent of the GOP field. Like many highly intelligent people, he is often strange and unpredictable.

He would mop the floor with Obama in a debate, but how would he govern? Frankly, I just don't know.

6 posted on 11/14/2011 1:58:26 PM PST by Dr. Thorne (Fall on your knees before Christ, your only salvation!)
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“He is clearly the best debater, more conservative than Romney and hates the MSM. “

So?

Debates aren’t the election.

Can he draw a crowd? ENTHUSIASTIC crowd.

Can he transcend the MSM wall that will be coming at him?

How is going to handle the flack he didn’t handle in the late 90s?

We are looking for a nominee to beat Obama, not to be a really cool AM talk radio host.


7 posted on 11/14/2011 1:58:26 PM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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Better than Romney.

Probably the smartest of the bunch, but lots of heavy personal baggage. The key will be what happens when the media/dems launch their smear campaign against him.

So far, the media has succeeded in heavily damaging every single candidate who takes the lead other than their preferred RINO (Romney). Gingrich is tough and quick on his feet, but they will have plenty of fodder to work with.


9 posted on 11/14/2011 2:01:03 PM PST by EternalHope (Politicians will always let you down. -- Sarah Palin)
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I think Newt is the guy! He is not only “presidential” but has an untouchable command of the issues. I love Cain too, but because of his lack of experience (what I love him for) and knowledge of global security type issues...I cant vote for him.


10 posted on 11/14/2011 2:01:11 PM PST by TheGunny
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He’s got my vote.


11 posted on 11/14/2011 2:01:17 PM PST by samtheman
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Dede Scozzafava


14 posted on 11/14/2011 2:03:15 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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Well... NO, actually. I agree that he’s fun to watch in debates; but I really see little reason to trust him with the leadership of the country. My dream scenario would be for Newt and Chris Christie to join the last GOP debate, pound everybody senseless, and then resign quietly to their day jobs, leaving the leadership position to those who are more committed to conservatism. :)


16 posted on 11/14/2011 2:04:02 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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You list yourself as the author but the referenced blog says
"Posted by Tom Jensen at 12:30 PM"
Hmmmm. Are you trying to claim credit for a blog poll you had nothing to do with?

If so, doesn't that make you a scumsucking liar?

Just asking.

19 posted on 11/14/2011 2:06:54 PM PST by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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He hasn’t taken any lead here in ML/NJville.

ML/NJ


20 posted on 11/14/2011 2:07:34 PM PST by ml/nj
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I am starting to get real uneasy about 2012. Here we have probably the most flawed incumbent in the history of the Republic, and Gingrich is the best we can run against him?

I’m also really pissed @ Mitch Daniels, Haley Barbour, Chris Christie, and yes, Sarah too, for staying on the sidelines.


21 posted on 11/14/2011 2:08:35 PM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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Long way to go. Real test is fund raising. Last I heard Cain is sustsaining the momentum he enjoyed last week when conservatives collectively and loudly gave the finger to the RINO and demrat faux scandal. More importantly they sent him lots of money.

Got a new accuser this week. I have to ante up to Cain again. I have pledged to donate each time Cain’s opponents invent a new “witness”.

The scandal ploy failed. Now their going back to the oucome based poll ploy. On to it. Not impressed.


24 posted on 11/14/2011 2:13:43 PM PST by dools0007world
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Long way to go. Real test is fund raising. Last I heard Cain is sustsaining the momentum he enjoyed last week when conservatives collectively and loudly gave the finger to the RINO and demrat faux scandal. More importantly they sent him lots of money.

Got a new accuser this week. I have to ante up to Cain again. I have pledged to donate each time Cain’s opponents invent a new “witness”.

The scandal ploy failed. Now their going back to the oucome based poll ploy. On to it. Not impressed.


25 posted on 11/14/2011 2:13:50 PM PST by dools0007world
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Long way to go. Real test is fund raising. Last I heard Cain is sustsaining the momentum he enjoyed last week when conservatives collectively and loudly gave the finger to the RINO and demrat faux scandal. More importantly they sent him lots of money.

Got a new accuser this week. I have to ante up to Cain again. I have pledged to donate each time Cain’s opponents invent a new “witness”.

The scandal ploy failed. Now their going back to the oucome based poll ploy. On to it. Not impressed.


26 posted on 11/14/2011 2:14:04 PM PST by dools0007world
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President Cain with Newt as VP is not my first choice but I’ll take it.

Would much prefer Cain/Huck ’12 ..with Newt as Press Secretary.

Btw, fun tweets today you must admit:

Romney 48/39 fav is 6 month low. Just not capitalizing at all 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Romney over the last 5 months- July 20%, August 20%, September 18%, October 22%, November 18% 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Blame media game keeping Cain from sinking - 61% of GOPers think it has been ‘mostly unfair’ 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Why Cain is still at 25%? – 54% of GOP voters continue to think accusations against him are ‘mostly false’ 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Cain voters love Newt, don’t care for Romney or Perry… 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply »

Why Newtmentum might continue- fav with Cain voters is 73/21, compared to 33/55 for Mitt 2 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

30 posted on 11/14/2011 2:20:17 PM PST by CainConservative
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What I think is that Republicans
1.HAVE TO get behind a legitimate candidate and do it QUICKLY
2. THAT candidate will either be CAIN, ROMNEY or GINGRICH.
3.The MSM has made it clear FOR TWO YEARS, through spin with varying degress of subtlety,that ROMNEY is their candidate.
4. The Left has ALSO made it clear that Romney is their candidate, for the seemingly contradictory reasons that
he’s the most “moderate” and also doesn’t offer enough of a
contrast to Obama to make much of a difference. This is a big gamble on their part, but you can see their reasoning.
5. NO ONE will win the nomination without the Tea Party vote, and so far Cain is the only one who’s captured that,
his “sexual scandals” notwithstanding.
6. Everyone must also recognize by now that the Left is trading on the “baggage” both Gingrich and Cain carry is
enough to render them “unelectable”. This fits perfectly into the ongoing objective of making Romney the nominee.
7. NOBODY seems to have learned the lessons of the last election , which was, regardless of defeats, a huge success for this vast new constituency known as the Tea Party.
Cain’s unprecedented showing so far is owing precisely to this constituency, even as it looks like his “baggage” has been engineered to make him drop in the polls.
8. A Romney victory in primaries will create as much chaos
(though strictly of a political sort) in the Body Politic
as Obama being elected to the Presidency.
9. I have NO substantial idea how Romney could win the primaries except through a careful courting of “Independents” and/or disgruntled Obama voters looking
for someone to put a new faxe on what will basically be a continuation of sorts of Obama’s policies. Obama himself has been thoroughly discredited.
10. Last but not least, everyone also recognizes that Gingrich as a debater is what’s needed to destroy Obama.
He is the ONLY one confident and well-equipped enough to do that.He’s also the ONLY one calling for a whole series of serious debates which are designed to do just htat.
He will prove to be the ANTI-Obama if he can pull it off:
answering all the pseudo-idealistic piffle that got Obama elected, with real-world policy expertise.


33 posted on 11/14/2011 2:23:12 PM PST by supremedoctrine
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No Newt is good Newt.


38 posted on 11/14/2011 2:29:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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