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1 posted on 11/04/2011 9:19:02 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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Apple found infringing two of Motorola Mobility old radio pager patents by German Court and an injunction has been issued that may block sales of all iPhones and iPads in Germany. ―PING!

However, at least ONE of the patents appears to be a patent that is covered by FRAND licensing and the other may not even apply and/or also be covered by FRAND laws.


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2 posted on 11/04/2011 9:47:20 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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Endgadget has just reported that Apple has made an uncharacteristic comment regarding the ruling: "This is a procedural issue, and has nothing to do with the merits of the case. It does not affect our ability to sell products or do business in Germany at this time.“

My limited understanding is that the injunction in German was granted without any input or defense from Apple... it was granted only on the declaration from Motorola Mobility that Apple was using, and infringing, these patents in its products. No determination of facts has yet been made.

In a similar infringement case brought by Motorola against another cell phone company using this same "counting" patent, it was pointed out that it was a required component of the GSM standard and covered under FRAND licensing. It looks as if Motorola is using the same FRAND patent license abuse that Samsung is now coming under investigation for using against Apple.

3 posted on 11/04/2011 9:59:24 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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Apple-Google wars; fun stuff.


4 posted on 11/04/2011 10:48:12 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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EP (European Patent) 0847654 (B1) on a "multiple pager status synchronization system and method"...

Pager? Who the heck uses pagers nowadays?

5 posted on 11/05/2011 4:44:08 AM PDT by 6SJ7 (I'm an AmeriCain!)
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Seems like Apple got bit by the same bug that they used to bite the competition about 15 years ago.

Apple didn’t create Firewire, but they were a strong proponent in establishing the Firewire standard, they successfully got it recognized as a standard (IEEE 1394), and incorporated it into the Mac’s hardware for over a decade. Video camcorders, cameras and other high-data rate devices followed suit. Upon adoption of the IEEE 1394, Apple demanded royalty payments for use of any Firewire Hub chipset.

This effectively killed Firewire, and was sleazy as all h*ll. It was also an effective tool to accelerate USB 2.0 into the cabling domain.

IMHO, this case is utter crap; when you sponsor a STANDARD, you should forfeit all rights to exclusivity and royalties as a Patent holder. Why? When you become a STANDARD, you effectively become the ‘only’ viable way to do something.

Now, Apple seems to have started making these t*rd sandwiches, it’s kinda ironic to see them getting force fed a nice big serving themselves.


7 posted on 11/05/2011 12:47:54 PM PDT by Hodar ( Who needs laws; when this FEELS so right?)
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