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Does Rossi's E-Cat Work? There is Only One Way to Find Out
Oil Price.com ^ | Wednesday, 02 November 2011 13:38 | Brian Westenhaus

Posted on 11/02/2011 9:38:04 AM PDT by Kevmo

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Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors to pretend to be the customer reps, created an elaborate year-long special-effects-derived series of demos, bribed, hypnotised or otherwise fooled Focardi, Levi, Kullander, Essen, Bianchini, Stremmenos and convinced a bunch of Greek crooks to set up a dummy company called Defkalion to pretend to fight with him over the non-existent eCat, to perpetuate the illusion and spin it off into a competing mirror-scam and convinced his former partners to set up another company called Ampenergo to pretend that they had a contract for The Americas for a substantial sum or that they just did this with no proof because they have worked with Rossi and trust him because he’s such a fine fellow, arranged for Piantelli, Miley and a host of others to try to fool the world into thinking that cold fusion was real, got NASA, SPAWAR, The Defense Threat Reduction Agency and The Defense Intelligence Agency to say nice things about the field, got Bushnell to make a fool of himself, sold his profitable company to his ex-partners in order to spend that wealth on a multi-million dollar scam; certain that once he got all the above ducks in a row he would pretend to sell the first device and then reel in the true target of his dastardly plan – the second (this time genuine) buyer of a 1MW plant that will net him $2 million dollars until they want their money back or sucker a $100 million dollar deal under the table because he has experience in pulling the wool over all these idiotic eyes and knows that they will just take his word for it and not want to test if his 1MW plant can heat a small village without truckloads of coal or oil or a big fat electric cable coming into the container from beneath the floor (no you can’t lift the carpet!) and that, in order to pull this off, Rossi had to risk discovery by interviewing all the people he subsequently fooled so that he could only invite the gullible Professors and not the brilliant anonymous posters on the Internet who surely would have found him out – then all bets are off and I’m with the guys who think that Rossi is an idiot and they are all geniuses .

1 posted on 11/02/2011 9:38:12 AM PDT by Kevmo
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2 posted on 11/02/2011 9:38:54 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors. . .

". . . IF. . ."

Proof of your allegations? Do YOU have any at all? Do you have ANY IDEA what your claims of scam would have COST to have staged? All for a dubious return?

3 posted on 11/02/2011 9:48:30 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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Unfortunately, if Rossi hired a bunch of actors. . .

". . . IF. . ."

Proof of your allegations? Do YOU have any at all? Do you have ANY IDEA what your claims of conspiracy would have COST to have staged? All for a dubious return?

4 posted on 11/02/2011 9:48:47 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: Kevmo

This makes it really sound like a scam to me.

I can’t show you how it works or even if it really works, but if you give me cash I will sell it to you and you can confirm it for yourself.


5 posted on 11/02/2011 9:52:41 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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This makes it really sound like a scam to me. I can’t show you how it works or even if it really works, but if you give me cash I will sell it to you and you can confirm it for yourself.

Reportedly, the first customer conducted acceptance testing before handing over the money. Once these customers start to reveal themselves, we will know more. I'd REALLY like to know the identities of these customers.

6 posted on 11/02/2011 10:02:01 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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I can’t show you how it works or even if it really works
***The October 28 test was all about showing his customer that it works to the standard agreed, and the customer forked over cash as a result.

Proving this is a fraud is simple now, because Rossi is going to be selling the devices.


7 posted on 11/02/2011 10:03:16 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Swordmaker

I see you understand how far-fetched the conspiracy theory is becoming.


8 posted on 11/02/2011 10:04:42 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

So, in other words, asking Rossi for adequate peer review is like asking you for concise, well-written sentences?


9 posted on 11/02/2011 10:11:43 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Kevmo

Who was the customer? How much did he spend? Did he sign an NDA?


10 posted on 11/02/2011 10:12:08 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: wideawake

Maybe you should read the post directly before yours. It is a concise, well-written sentence. Most of my posts are. What you fail to realize is that in post #1 I’m pulling a quote from another article.

Rossi is not a scientist, so we won’t be getting much in the way of peer review, especially since his peers refused to publish his findings because they were deemed impossible.

So Rossi is in the process of proving the technology by selling it to satisfied buyers. He claims to have lined up 2 more.


11 posted on 11/02/2011 10:20:06 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: for-q-clinton

The first ecat was hauled away by truck, but noone thought to tail it to the destination?


12 posted on 11/02/2011 10:21:17 AM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: PapaBear3625
There are, as far as Rossi is willing to assert, two "real" customers.

The name of only one is disclosed.

The one whose name we know is Ampenergo, an Ohio company which appears to exist only as a website and whose known employees are all former associates of Rossi's in previous, unsuccessful business ventures.

Rossi said that Ampenergo would receive its first shipment of E-Cats last month, but then had to cancel the shipment due to "contractual difficulties."

The second, anonymous, customer allegedly attended a secret demonstration of the technology last week and immediately put in an order.

It really is impossible for a scam to get fishier than this one.

13 posted on 11/02/2011 10:21:39 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: for-q-clinton

Customer is preferring to remain secret. I think he paid 2MEuros for the 1MW device. Rossi signed an NDA.


14 posted on 11/02/2011 10:21:46 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Politically Correct

I know. Frustrating.


15 posted on 11/02/2011 10:23:04 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

This is sounding more real, if he is actually selling.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 10:24:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I guess some Occupiers are more 99% than other Occupiers.)
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To: Kevmo; Swordmaker

LOL, did you guys work that out ahead of time?

(Sword, I think this is the first time I have seen you post on an E-cat thread, you would have to read the last 20 or so threads to get understand why your post gets a chuckle from me.)

Either that or Kevmo has become a seagull! LOL.


17 posted on 11/02/2011 10:27:48 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Lazamataz

But... don’t hit it just yet. ;-)


18 posted on 11/02/2011 10:27:48 AM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kevmo

I’ve had much better luck when I just hit it, and let the pieces fall as they will. :)


19 posted on 11/02/2011 10:30:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I guess some Occupiers are more 99% than other Occupiers.)
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To: Kevmo
we won’t be getting much in the way of peer review, especially since his peers refused to publish his findings because they were deemed impossible

Impossible? Or unsubstantiated by the evidence he presented?

BTW, your tagline translates as "Let the 'lurkor' beware for himself ye watch."

Your English translation would actually read "Judicaret spectator se ipso."

20 posted on 11/02/2011 10:33:29 AM PDT by wideawake
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