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Is Herman Cain In Trouble With Social Conservatives?
NPR ^ | October 20, 2011 | Debra Rosenberg

Posted on 10/20/2011 2:31:23 PM PDT by casinva

Part of Herman Cain's appeal to GOP presidential primary voters was that he seemed to have more street cred with social conservatives than the putative front runner, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. Doubts about Romney have helped fuel Cain's recent rise in the polls, putting him in a virtual dead-heat with Romney.

But in an interview Wednesday night with CNN's Piers Morgan, Cain raised some new questions about his stance on social issues. When Morgan asked the former Godfather's Pizza CEO about his beliefs on abortion and contraception, Cain said he believes life begins at conception and that he supports "abortion under no circumstances." But, according to a CNN transcript, Cain drew a sharp line between his personal beliefs and the role government should play:

No, it comes down to it's not the government's role or anybody else's role to make that decision. Secondly, if you look at the statistical incidents, you're not talking about that big a number. So what I'm saying is it ultimately gets down to a choice that that family or that mother has to make.

Not me as president, not some politician, not a bureaucrat. It gets down to that family. And whatever they decide, they decide. I shouldn't have to tell them what decision to make for such a sensitive issue.

When Morgan pressed him, saying he couldn't hide behind being "the pizza guy," and that, as president, his views would become "a directive to the nation," Cain reiterated his government-hands-off-abortion stance:

No they don't. I can have an opinion on an issue without it being a directive on the nation. The government shouldn't be trying to tell people everything to do, especially when it comes to social decisions that they need to make.

See the actual interview here:

http://youtu.be/OPKYYDefMV4

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: aliar4perry; cain; liars4perry; perrybotattack; perryforpresident; perrywinklespanic; rickperry; romneyperry2012; sanctityoflife
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To: casinva

We can plainly see that you are so worried that your favorite candidate is too weak to get the nomination on merit because you are workign so hard to force a default decision by trashing everyone but your weak candidate. And ya know what, smarmy, I don’t even know whom you want to win, I just see gobs of whom you shills don’t want to win. You’re in good company because picking the republicans’ candidate as the default to oppose their barry bassturd commie-in-chief is the democrat strategy, idiot!


21 posted on 10/20/2011 2:45:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Santorum, Bachmann hammer Cain on abortion comments

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20123406-503544.html

Alice Stewart said, Bachmann’s communications director, noted in response to the comments that “Michele has always been 100 percent pro-life from conception to natural death.”

“This year, more than ever, we cannot settle on a candidate who is not consistent on this critical issue,” she added.

While the Bachmann campaign has been relatively restrained in response to Cain’s comments, whould could have serious implications in evangelical-heavy Iowa, Santorum has aggressively criticized his rival for the comments, most recently sending out an email blast to his supporters titled “Floored.”


22 posted on 10/20/2011 2:45:36 PM PDT by casinva
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To: casinva
Unless “I’m 100% pro-life. End of story” isn’t the end of the story.

As long as nobody asks or expects him to try to do something, or get Congress to do something that's outside of the scope of the original intent of their enumerated powers, I believe that is the end of the story.

23 posted on 10/20/2011 2:45:43 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: casinva

NPR ? Was Mother Jones unavailable ?


24 posted on 10/20/2011 2:45:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: rintense

I’m a Caion supporter that would run to Gingrich before Perry.


25 posted on 10/20/2011 2:46:15 PM PDT by Grunthor (BEAT OBAMA WITH A CAIN!)
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To: casinva; All
"“No, I don’t support a fence on the border,” he said. “The fact is, it’s 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso. Two things: How long you think it would take to build that? And then if you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good.” ~ Rick Perry, Sept. 2011

"“You got strategic fencing in some of the metropolitan areas – it’s very helpful. But the idea that you’re going to build a wall from Brownsville to El Paso is just — it’s ridiculous on its face.” ~Rick Perry, Aug. 2011

Katherine Cesinger, State Press Director, RickPerry.org, Inc., says, re: Governor Perry’s position on abortion: “His position has been consistent on this. Gov. Perry is pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”

26 posted on 10/20/2011 2:46:32 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: casinva; rintense
Are social conservatives OK with this?

This just one of Cain's daily jokes. He wants Americans to get a sense of humor.

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The Joker

27 posted on 10/20/2011 2:46:36 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: casinva

I’m cool with it. He’s more honest than Perry or Gomer.


28 posted on 10/20/2011 2:46:58 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: casinva

” End of story.”

When the heat gets on him about some conflicting or controversial comment he’s made,
Cain declares the topic closed.
After he called Perry insensitive to blacks because of a rock and he started to experience blowback,
Cain said “ I’m done with the issue!”

The topic is obviously not closed for Santorum .

” It’s basically the position that just about every pro-choice politician has in America,”
“I don’t know too many pro-choice politicians who are for abortion,
who want more abortions ...
but they say the decision is a choice the government shouldn’t be involved in.”

“That is Herman Cain’s position,
which does not make him pro-life.
That is the quintessential pro-choice position on abortion.”


29 posted on 10/20/2011 2:48:19 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: casinva

The real Cain is being exposed. Now, he’s also hired someone in Iowa who is part of the “establishment”.


30 posted on 10/20/2011 2:48:57 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: casinva
Bachmann, bless her, is desperately trying to save her campaign, like you are desperately trying to save Perry's.
31 posted on 10/20/2011 2:49:04 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: casinva

I see their version cut the middle, and the critical second question asked out.


32 posted on 10/20/2011 2:49:59 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: fieldmarshaldj

NPR ? Was Mother Jones unavailable ?

POST OF THE DAY!! POST OF THE DAY!!

CHCKENSOUP DELCARES POST OF THE DAY!!

...and the sky is not falling...yet.


33 posted on 10/20/2011 2:50:25 PM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: smoothsailing
Kinda like Perry being funny in calling those who oppose in-state tuition 'heartless'?

Who's laughing now, Mr. I'm polling behind Ron Paul?

34 posted on 10/20/2011 2:50:30 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Exactly. The Morgan interview has been distorted by arseholes, azzhats, douchebags, morons, mugs, pugs, dimwits, halfwits, sh*twits, dingbats, effwads, d*ckheads, buttheads, cokeheads, and methodists.


35 posted on 10/20/2011 2:50:30 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: casinva

Are you a Mitt-bot?

I see you’ve already been outed on your own thread as anti-Cain? So maybe you might wanna post Mitt Romney’s reaction to Cain’s 100 percent anti-abortion positions.

Oh wait. Maybe you better not.

I’d say nice try at trying to trip up Herman Cain on this fundamental issue. But actually - this is lame, weak and pathetic.


36 posted on 10/20/2011 2:50:38 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Really?

Do you support Perry's words here:

Governor Perry’s position on abortion: “His position has been consistent on this. Gov. Perry is pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother.”

37 posted on 10/20/2011 2:51:50 PM PDT by rintense (ABO is not a winning strategy.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sheesh. All day long we’ve had thread after thread on a very simple answer by Mr. Cain. He is 100 percent pro-life


Silly isn’t it? Just for extra support, here it is again

Life, liberty & pursuit of happiness starts with unborn life
The Founding Fathers got it right. The Founding Fathers got it right because of those fundamental principles: life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They also got it in the right order. That wasn’t an accident. Their vision meant that you could pursue happiness in America as long as you don’t infringe upon the liberties of somebody else. And you can pursue all the liberties that you want as long as you don’t infringe upon the life of anybody else. And that starts with the life of the unborn.
Source: , May 1, 2011

Defund Planned Parenthood; intent was to kill black babies
I absolutely would defund Planned Parenthood—not because I don’t believe in planning parenthood, [but because] Planned Parenthood as an organization is an absolute farce on the American people.

People who know the history of Margaret Sanger, who started Planned Parenthood, they know that the intention was not to help young women who get pregnant to plan their parenthood. No—it was a sham to be able to kill black babies.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011

Life begins at conception, period
I believe that life begins at conception, period. And that means that I will have to see enough evidence that someone I would appoint shares that same view. I believe that the current Supreme Court is leaning too much to the liberal side.

I’m a Christian, I’ve been a Christian all my life. I’ve been a believer in the Bible since I was 10 years old. I’m very active in my church, and there is no way I would compromise my religious beliefs about the sanctity of life. And so it starts with, will they have demonstrated, in some of their other rulings, if they come from the federal judge bench, whether or not they also share that.

Because I believe that the principles that our Founding Fathers cherished, when they founded this country, and wrote the Declaration of Independence which inspired the Constitution, they were based upon biblical principles. I want to get back to those principles as president, if I run and get elected—not rewrite those documents.
Source: Interview on the Bryan Fischer radio show , Jan 18, 2011


38 posted on 10/20/2011 2:52:27 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: oldbill

No - it’s not. They took the question he was actually answering out of the middle and spliced it so he appears to say something completely different.


39 posted on 10/20/2011 2:52:31 PM PDT by Ingtar
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To: casinva

“Are social conservatives OK with this?”

With using an NPR hatchet job quoting someone out of context to tar a conservative candidate? No, we are not.


40 posted on 10/20/2011 2:53:15 PM PDT by Boogieman
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