That’s not a tip, it’s a service charge.
Perfectly legitimate for a restaurant to charge in this way. The market will decide whether it will work. Personally I wouldn’t eat at a place that charged this way. Let ‘em raise their prices and then pay their workers a living wage.
No, hell no! A tip as was said is for good service. If it becomes part of the bill the next thing they’ll want is an additional tip.
I typically tip 20%.
It’s one of the main reasons I rarely eat out any more.
lots of men in San Francisco take more than the tip....
Why not 200%? Why not 500% Seems reasonable!
Tipping at McDonald's?
WTF?
Tips?
It all started with the Inn keeper’s daughter as travelers stopped by the highway from the 1600s, and it has “progressively” gotten out of hand from there...
First the merchants (much like politicians) made a good thing of it, then the irs got involved, now better not say anything against “tipping” as the AINOs (Americans In name only) will be on ya like odor on a wet mail-person!
Semper Watching!
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It’s a free Country (for now) so they can do as they please. Just don’t ask for a bailout when you’re facing bankruptcy. People will dine elsewhere if you force them to pay 25% no matter how lousy the service or food.
Must be getting harder for waiters to pay their union dues... and that SF health insurance for transgender surgery and lifetime hormones is killer
Next, tip jars in your child’s classroom
I don’t mind giving a little extra tip for good service (doesn’t TIP come from To Insure Promptness?) but I’d like to be the one who decides. Restaurants that serve wine usually mark it up buy 2 to 3 fold. A decent bottle that costs 20 bucks in the liquor store will bring in 60 at a restaurant, not including sales tax. And a 25% tip will add another 15 dollars to that. 15 dollars is a lot of money for turning a corkscrew a couple of times, a procedure that takes a few seconds.
When restaurant prices go up 25%, a 20% tip goes up 25%.
The get proportionally more money.
Now they want a bigger chunk.
No.
FUBO GTFO! 464 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013
It seems in so many unexpected places anymore, you see these ‘tip jars’. I am personally offended by these jars! What you charge for the product includes your tip. I buy, you do your job, I pay.
Mike
That way slobbering heroin addicts with various STD’s(poor souls) can work and get paid after letting the sleepy slime drip on our food..I mean they need to make it too...
There goes the restaurant business...restaurants are for the rich....new slogan for SF activist
Then I guess we’d better start tipping at the DMV, too.
Oh wait, that means our decline toward third-world status would be complete!
Let us assume a diner has 1000 budgeted for dining out for a year, and let us further assume that he typically eats a 30 dollar meal. Let us find out how that works out, mathematically.
30 plus typical 15% = 34.50. That means he can afford to eat out 28.9 times in that year. Let us round and say 29 times.
Now, with 30 plus the new 25% tip = 37.50. That means he can afford to eat out 26.6 times a year, but again, let us round and we have 27.
There are two less instances of him being able to eat out, now. So where does the money come from to cover those two times? Oh, I know, Obama's new RestaurantCare plan.
Since I have no intention of ever going back to SF have at it. But won’t this be considered to be gay on gay crime? ;-)
“the restaurant worker actually has to claim 15% of that to the IRS.”
Pay with plastic, tip with cash. 15% if the service is good
and 20% tops. Gratuity is automatically adjusted for
inflation by the price of the food. In other words just give
what you think they are worth. They can want in one hand and...