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here's the link again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbJ-Fs1ikA&feature=player_embedded

1 posted on 10/09/2011 6:23:12 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

You’re gonna post crap from Stink Progress here?


2 posted on 10/09/2011 6:26:45 PM PDT by sauropod (William Kristol does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: mamelukesabre

I think if the context is examined, we would find that Reagan was right in what he was saying, while 0dumbo is totally wrong.


4 posted on 10/09/2011 6:28:42 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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I’m not biting on an outside link without some information. “this one is making the rounds” isn’t much to go on.


5 posted on 10/09/2011 6:31:07 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: mamelukesabre

Can we have some context please?


7 posted on 10/09/2011 6:33:21 PM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: mamelukesabre

Sounds like the same exact rhetoric to me.


9 posted on 10/09/2011 6:36:30 PM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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Reagan was pushing for lower and flatter overall tax rates, and closing loopholes. Obama is for higher top marginal tax rates and "closing" tax loopholes

Get the context now, dimbulb?

10 posted on 10/09/2011 6:37:23 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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We generally ignore link only thread starts here.


11 posted on 10/09/2011 6:38:52 PM PDT by cicero2k
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To: mamelukesabre
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgbJ-Fs1ikA&feature=player_embedded
12 posted on 10/09/2011 6:39:28 PM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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I don’t trust Thinkprogress.

But I do have a comment: “The leaves changing color are spectacular right now.”


13 posted on 10/09/2011 6:40:44 PM PDT by Winstons Julia (when liberals rant, it's called free speech; when conservatives vent, it's called hate speech.)
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any comments?

None for now. You posted this.

Any comments?

14 posted on 10/09/2011 6:43:53 PM PDT by smithone
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I think Reagan was talking about the myriad of tax shelters which were huge business up until the 1986 reform. Getting rid of them for a flat tax wasn't a bad idea, though because he didn't really get a flat tax, we have crept back towards the status quo.

I haven't head Obama talk about closing income tax loopholes, I have just heard him whine about capital gains being taxed at a lower rate then income. It is dumber than dumb to think about taxing investment (capital gains is tax on invest revenue) when the economy is this broken.

15 posted on 10/09/2011 6:46:26 PM PDT by Wayne07
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Here’s the full speech

http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1985/60685a.htm


16 posted on 10/09/2011 6:49:37 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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I heard this earlier - Obama and his ilk are very skillful at twisting words to defend their cause - typical lawyer speak. (Remember the famous “it depends on what the meaning of “is” is” statement.)

The guy lies - plain and simple - he has no honor.


17 posted on 10/09/2011 6:53:28 PM PDT by mike_9958
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There’s been very little said by Repubs or Dems until now about doing away the lower rate for long-term capital gains, as that was enacted to encourage investment.

Now, everyone from Warren Buffet to Obama is coming out of the woodwork with statements supporting some vague “higher rates for rich people” and “rich people pay less than poor people” ideas.

These are not specific change recommendations, but empty rhetoric thrown around for political gain.

The conversation is so idiotic it’s not worth thinking about. The correct response is always: hey, Congress enacted all the tax laws. What effective rate winds up being paid by every private citizen - rich or poor - is a result of Congress’s tax code. Don’t blame the rich guy - blame Congress.

What America really has is a government spending problem, not a tax rules or rates problem. Because the government has allowed itself to borrow, it has borrowed WAY out - perhaps a hundred years or more - out in front of it’s tax revenue.

The tax issue is a smoke screen to distract from the government spending issue. Like if we somehow made the tax payments more “fair” the government would not be broker than green company after it’s startup funding runs out.

So this whole thing is just stirring up poo that will get no one anywhere. Because the far left is not going to do well in the next election because so many people in America own stuff and they know the far lefties will take it from them if they have their way.

America is not a class warfare place because we’ve had too many years and generations of people living in the land of opportunity.

The class-warfare dog just don’t hunt except amongst the “flaky few”.

IMHO...


18 posted on 10/09/2011 6:53:34 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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Can we have some context please?


19 posted on 10/09/2011 6:55:38 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (welcome dies irae)
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Of course the missing context is that with this same 1986 tax reform Reagan was talking about, he lowered the top nominal tax rate for individuals to 28 percent from 50 percent.

So closing some tax loopholes, while lowering taxes by an incredible amount. His tax reform was never meant to increases overall taxation on any group.

That makes him the exact opposite of Obama


20 posted on 10/09/2011 6:56:06 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: mamelukesabre
Mark Levin rips this to shreds.

The real Ronald Reagan obliterates Obama’s version of Reagan

23 posted on 10/09/2011 7:12:10 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Sexy Sarah, what have you done? You made a fool of everyone.)
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Yes, my comment is President Reagan had a Democrat Congress. Did Regan's Democrat Congress close the loop holes?

One day America's voters may wake up to the fact that everything in the tax code is the result of decisions taken by 535 Representatives, 9 Supreme Court Justices, and 1 President.

Protesting Wall Street is meaningless. Protesting the Representatives who succumb to the influences of corporation’s lobbyist and Wall Street in exchange for generous campaign contributions can be effective.

The grass roots Tea Party Movement directs its protests where it matters. The uniqueness of the Tea Party makes them entirely different than the “Occupy Wall Street” protest. The Tea Party is unique because it is not asking the government to give them something.

30 posted on 10/10/2011 5:48:24 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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Another vote here for “context, please”.

Random “hey, look at this” links are usually a waste of time and are duly ignored.
(Responses like this are due to the act of responding being more interesting than the average random “hey, look at this” link.)


33 posted on 10/10/2011 8:17:05 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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Reagan advocated for closing loopholes that allowed millionaires to pay little to no taxes. Obama is advocating millionaires paying an even higher percentage of their income than they already do. It's not the same thing, it's just edited to make it look that way.
44 posted on 10/10/2011 4:33:07 PM PDT by liberalh8ter
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