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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; GRRRRR; 2banana; henkster; ...
The first image is not really 1 & 2, just 1. That was meant for the sports post.

Hitler is Disputed – 2
Moscow Statement on Religion Disappoints White House Circles – 3-4
The International Situation – 3
Scant Changes Seen for Russia – 4-5
Argentine Cruiser at Base for Repairs – 5
Swedes Report Nazis See Peril in Norway – 5
Freedom Rally Thrills 17,000 – 5-7
The Men Who Hold Tobruk (photos) – 7
Texts of the Day’s War Communiques – 8

5 posted on 10/06/2011 5:03:15 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1941/oct41/f06oct41.htm

Soviets lose another 100,000 troops
Monday, October 6, 1941 www.onwar.com
On the Eastern Front... German General Kleist’s right wing reaches Berdyansk, on the Sea of Azoz trapping more than 100,000 Soviet soldiers. The German 11th Army is attempting to link with Kleist by attacking along the coast. The Soviet position near Vyazma and Bryansk is deteriorating. Large pockets of troop have been encircled and are being reduced.


6 posted on 10/06/2011 5:08:20 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; CougarGA7; PzLdr
Headline:
RUSSIANS KEEP UP PRESSURE
PUT NAZI LOSSES AT 3,000,000
AND THEIR OWN AT 1,128,000

"...According to these latest official statistics, Russia has lost 1,128,000 men -- 280,000 killed, 720,000 wounded and 178,000 missing -- as well as 7,000 tanks, 8,900 cannon and 5,316 aircraft.
The Nazi estimates of soviet losses are about twice as high as these.

"On the other hand, Mr. Scherbakoff said, the Germans have now lost 3,000,000 men -- killed, wounded or prisoners -- and 11,000 tanks, 13,000 cannon and 9,000 aircraft..."

Is it just my imagination, or did the Soviets simply take their own numbers for losses of men & equipment, assign those to the Germans, and then claim their estimates of German losses for themselves?
How else could we account for such a gross mis-match between reports and reality?

And why do the Germans understate their own successes -- listing here just 12,000 Russians captured, when the total is already in the millions?

14 posted on 10/07/2011 7:00:42 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Headline: "Moscow Statement on Religion Disappoints White House Circles – 3-4"

Father Walsh's statement:

"...Since the Soviet Government has communicated its answer publicly to the press the American public as every right to discuss publicly this latest development without fear of damaging or hindering whatever diplomatic hopes may have been entertained in government circles here.

"I deem it a waste of very valuable time to prove again the hollow mockery involved in the pretense that religious freedom exists in Russia.
The opposite was demonstrated with chapter and verse in my statement of October 2.
No informed adult mind in the United States believes otherwise.

"The American people hold with President Roosevelt in his speech before the American Youth Congress in February, 1940.
Referring to the persecution of religion in Russia, the President said:

    'I abhorred the indiscriminate killings of thousands of innocent victims.
    I heartily deprecated the banishment of religion, though I knew that some day Russia would return to religion...' "

As the war progressed, Stalin slowly lifted some restrictions on religion.
And though I've seen no historical account of the time where the good Father Walsh (or President Roosevelt) is given any credit for Stalin's increasing leniency, still this report shows that Walsh's words came before Stalin's actions.

All that said, it remains utterly stunning and breathtaking that Father Walsh is here campaigning for religious freedom in Russia while Nazis are murdering Jews and many other eastern Europeans, including Catholic clergy, in their hundreds of thousands.

About which, as of "today", no one has yet said anything publicly.

16 posted on 10/07/2011 7:58:32 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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