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Exoplanet's misstep raises doubts
Nature ^ | Friday, September 23, 2011 | Eric Hand

Posted on 10/02/2011 6:10:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Paul Kalas, an astronomer at the University of California, Berkeley, and lead author on the 2008 study, says the latest image indicates that the planet's orbit crosses into the dust disk. And that has led Ray Jayawardhana, an astronomer at the University of Toronto in Canada, to question the planet's existence. On such a trajectory, the planet's gravitational influence would have previously disrupted the clearly delineated disk. "It's quite clear that the original story cannot stand anymore," Jayawardhana says.

Kalas acknowledges that the latest data point is puzzling, but he says he remains confident that Fomalhaut b is a planet. "You have one scientist trying to create a controversy out of nothing," he says. Hundreds of exoplanets have been detected indirectly by measuring their gravitational influence on the stars they orbit or by recording brightness changes as they cross in front of their stars...

Fomalhaut b... is far too bright in visible light for something expected to be only a few times the size of Jupiter. And ground-based follow-up observations in the infrared have been fruitless, even though this is the part of spectrum where hot, youthful planets are supposed to be brightest.

Kalas says one explanation may be that the Fomalhaut system is older than previously thought, and therefore cooler and fainter in the infrared. And, he says, the excessive optical brightness can be explained if the planet is surrounded by bright material, just as Saturn is surrounded by a system of rings, which would increase its overall reflectivity.

Jayawardhana says this alone should bump Fomalhaut b from the list of directly imaged planets, because the light would be coming from the dust, not the planet's surface. "They continue to call it a directly imaged planet," he says. "I think it's time to stop doing that."

(Excerpt) Read more at nature.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: fomalhaut; fomalhautb; xplanets
Two successive images of Fomalhaut b suggest it is following a conventional planetary orbit (white line). A 2010 image, however, shows the object straying from this course. [NASA/ ESA/Ref. 1]

Exoplanets misstep raises doubts

1 posted on 10/02/2011 6:10:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 10/02/2011 6:12:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: VanDeKoik; Lonesome in Massachussets; KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; ..

Sounds to me like Fomalhaut b has at least one moon.

 
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3 posted on 10/02/2011 6:13:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2011/09/27/exoplanets-surprising-detour-reignites-astronomical-debate/comment-page-1/
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/files/2011/09/fomalhaut.jpg
http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef015391e20595970b-800wi
http://blogs.discovery.com/.a/6a00d8341bf67c53ef015391e20595970b-pi
http://cdn.theconversation.edu.au/files/3820/width440/Fomalhautb.jpg
http://news.discovery.com/space/famous-exoplanet-fomalhaut-b-may-not-exist-110926.html
http://theconversation.edu.au/the-exoplanet-that-wasnt-or-was-it-3532
http://www.astrobio.net/images/galleryimages_images/Gallery_Image_4483.jpg
http://www.astrobio.net/images/galleryimages_images/Gallery_Image_7823.jpg
http://www.astrobio.net/images/galleryimages_images/Gallery_Image_8333.jpg
http://www.astrobio.net/includes/preview.php?gen=../images/banneralbum_images/Banneralbum_794.jpg&widthVal=450
http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/4243/doubts-over-fomalhaut-b
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110923/full/news.2011.555.html
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110923/images/Fomalhaut_actual_350.jpg
http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110923/images/fomalhaut_concept_260.jpg


4 posted on 10/02/2011 6:14:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I always enjoy your posts because I love planetary science and especially atrosphysics. What is interesting about the exoplanet craze is that we have some proof in the data, but often the new findings remind me of the global warming crowd. I think some science teams are too eager to prove that they found the 701st exoplanet. It’s all great, but there is a bit of over-confidence in the field over the last 10 years. Keep on posting.


5 posted on 10/02/2011 6:24:02 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Hundreds have been found, hundreds more have been suspected but not verified. The number of exoplanets known will probably double (at least) in 2012, and systems already known to contain one planet will be shown to have even more, as happened with 55 Cancri.

Global warming is strictly a political construct, has and had zero basis in any data or scientific study, and has been shown to be total BS every single time it has been studied for real, necessitating a retreat to some other unfounded political position. Recently there was a move back to “excess energy is being stored in the ocean’s depths” which is clearly A) not true (it’s been studied) and B) physically impossible, literally impossible.

IOW, there’s absolutely no connection between the global warming demagoguery and exoplanet studies.

The first (modern) claim of an exoplanet was Barnard’s Star, a red dwarf that is in closer proximity to us than most other stars. Astronomer Peter van de Kamp claimed discovery of one, and then two, planets in orbit, based on a perceived wobble in the motion of the star. It is generally thought now that his telescope had a subtle mechanical problem, as all the photographic plates taken in the same span of years (mostly since WWII) show that all the stars recorded on the plates have the same wobble.

It’s fairly likely that Barnard’s Star has at least some planets, but van de Kamp didn’t detect them.

His conclusions were tested by other astronomers, and couldn’t be reproduced using the very same data, or by re-imaging the star from different locations. That’s epitomimzes how science is supposed to work, and how scientists claim that it always does.

If it always did, the jokers pushing the AGW agenda would be out of jobs and blacklisted.

http://www.weblore.com/richard/barnard%27s_star.htma


6 posted on 10/02/2011 6:50:11 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

They are all “scientists”. They all make up facts to fit their theories. Just look at evolution and global warming. They are all socialist pawns used to promote hope and change for the masses.


7 posted on 10/02/2011 6:57:30 AM PDT by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: SunkenCiv

Humans are causing stellar wobble!
Please donate to freerepublic.com to stop the spin!


8 posted on 10/02/2011 7:02:07 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: SunkenCiv

We don’t have any disagreement here. I just wanted to point out the science vs verified science aspect of exoplanet discovery. Thank you for the write-up.

Do you happen to follow the Jodcast podcast and the Starstuff podcast out of Australia? Those are two good current planetary science podcast I really enjoy - Starstuff being the better facts-based one. If you have any reading / listening list recommendations please let me know.


9 posted on 10/02/2011 7:02:48 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: SunkenCiv

10 posted on 10/02/2011 7:56:24 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Cool! I’d go there.

Did you take that picture with a MALP sent through the Stargate? (It is real, doncha know)


11 posted on 10/02/2011 5:07:39 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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12 posted on 10/02/2011 5:44:17 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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