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Answer this question honestly and you'll see why Palin's influence is gone. (Vanity)

Posted on 09/29/2011 1:04:44 PM PDT by Scythian

Let's suppose Cain wins the nomination. Do you think he's going to pal around with Palin on the campaign trail or pick her as VP?

The honest answer is "No". Cain would need independents and Palin has a lot of negatives, also, she's from Alaska, not a key state. The simple truth of the matter is Palin is no longer important as some think she is. And any candidate that latches on to her, or rather, let's Sarah latch on to them could quite possibly end up losing the independents. So, watch for the nominee to distance himself (whoever he might be) from Palin. The base would be with Cain, Palin could only drive potential voters away.

Again, if you think about this honestly, I think her time in the bright lights is coming to an end.

In full disclosure I was a big time Sarah fan, but no longer, Cain is my guy now and I'm not switching away from him.


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KEYWORDS: cain; honesty; notrunning; palin; palin2012; sarahpalin
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To: Kartographer

Herman Cain is the one up there who doesn’t look like he’s part of that permanent political class.

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She said, “Cain is the one ...”. Wow.


61 posted on 09/29/2011 1:32:55 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: Scythian

If Cain gets the nod, he will want Palin to campain with him and will pay her back with a cabinet post or chair of the RNC.

This would do both of them a world of good.


62 posted on 09/29/2011 1:32:55 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Scythian

He’s not winning. She’s not running. Neither will be the VP. And Obama will lose.


63 posted on 09/29/2011 1:33:07 PM PDT by Solson (The Voters stole the election! And the establishment wants it back.)
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To: Scythian

Palin-Cain 2012!


64 posted on 09/29/2011 1:34:00 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Scythian

I thought you were so done with Palin. It appears she’s living rent-free 24/7.


65 posted on 09/29/2011 1:34:00 PM PDT by Jess79
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To: sodpoodle
A few missteps, but overcame them without blaming others.

I think that is what I like most about Cain. He is not afraid to admit his errors and then do something about correcting them. He traveled to Israel and met the leaders there and learned first hand about "right to return" instead of trying to slither off. Of course as you said, his ideas, principles, humility, optimism and humor are to be admired!
66 posted on 09/29/2011 1:34:07 PM PDT by federal__reserve (Peace through strength has worked better than peace via appeasement in history.)
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To: Scythian; BufordP

Sure, whack the hornets nest to see what happens! LOL


67 posted on 09/29/2011 1:34:15 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: Scythian
You are deluding yourself if you think that Herman Cain is going much of anywhere. All the hubbub is about Herman Cain winning the Presidency 5 Straw poll in Florida. I have been to three Presidency Convention Polls which are held only when there is no Republican Incumbent in the WH. The reason that Herman Cain got so many votes is because you could not vote for SP, or Mccotter either. SP had a big following at Presidency 5, and if she had been on the ballot no matter how much he is loved by SP supporters, they would have voted for her. If you notice, Rick Santorum got 10 percent of the vote, that also sent a message to Rick Romney or Mitt Perry.

You can back what ever horse you want, and I think that Herman Cain is a fantastic guy and high achiever. He also is the real black man, who has class,courage, decency, great sense of humor and high intelligence. He is remarkably not bitter and he has no chip on his shoulder considering what he had to endure growing up a black man.

I hate to say this,but you are turning people off almost as bad as Perry's zealots. You do not go from supposedly favoring someone so highly to slamming them because they do not do as you want.

68 posted on 09/29/2011 1:36:40 PM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. candidate for America the Beautiful...)
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To: Scythian

Well, I don’t think so, and you can make statements like that only because she hasn’t “announced”. I have no better idea than anyone else whether she will, but if she does, you will see all over again an excited base WAY beyond the momentary excitement that Rick Perry’s introduction in the scene generated just a few weeks ago. A stuff-it-down-their-throats Romney candidacy will inevitably create political chaos on our side almost as divisive as the Obama candidacy and election did 3 years ago. There are some real problems here, and they’ll manifest fully for probably a good many months in the future. In this context, I can see Cain continuing to rise, and when he does, he may well be the Tea Party choice ,lacking Palin’s delayed appearance as a candidate. NO Republican candidate can win the election (the nomination, sadly, is another thing entirely) without the Tea Party vote, which comes from probably MORE sources than it did in the wake of McCain/Palin’s defeat. Perry has got to
present himself better, and clear up by way of explanation, all those ‘negatives’ that continue to cling to him.
Otherwise we’ll be left with Willard.
Sarah better decide soon, or we’ll be left with Perry.
Kind of on the horns of a dilemma, huh?


69 posted on 09/29/2011 1:36:56 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: proudpapa
I suspect that Sarah will help turn out more women.

I disagree. At least as far as turning them out to vote for Palin. In my experience, from talking to family, friends, etc., women tend to be the most turned off by her. I don't know why. I agree with her on most points; more so than most of the current candidates. I could see myself voting for her if she runs; maybe in the primary, definitely in the general if she were to win. But, bring her up in conversations with women, even conservative women, and the claws come out. Her negatives may be undeserved and products of unrelenting bashing by the media, but they are real. It's something a lot of Palin supporters try to ignore or write off as PDS, but that doesn't change the situation.

70 posted on 09/29/2011 1:37:37 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: Scythian

It’s not because of any “games” that certain Freepers are no longer supporters of Gov. Palin. It’s because certain Freepers have short attention spans and move on to the new shiny trinket.

I happen to be the base, and she’s not turning me off. In fact I’ll be happy for her whether she decides to run or not. I actually think she’d be crazy to run. Who needs the headache.


71 posted on 09/29/2011 1:38:15 PM PDT by beandog (You can't elevate Perry by tearing down Palin)
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To: sickoflibs
Sure, whack the hornets nest to see what happens! LOL

Don't care who you are (Palin or Cain supporter), but that there is funny. LOL

72 posted on 09/29/2011 1:38:35 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: dmz
Cain has won some straw polls (one of which he won with fewer than 400 votes), but do any legitimate polls (oxymoron?) show him with more than 10% support?

Yesterday's nationwide Fox poll has him at 17%, just 6 behind Romney; today's SurveyUSA for Florida has it Romney 25, Cain 22.

So, to answer your question... yes.

73 posted on 09/29/2011 1:39:55 PM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: tnlibertarian

Dig a little deeper. The women I know that dislike Palin think she is a phony and they don’t buy her “act”.


74 posted on 09/29/2011 1:40:24 PM PDT by magritte
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To: tnlibertarian; onyx; DJ MacWoW
In my experience, from talking to family, friends, etc., women tend to be the most turned off by her. I don't know why. I agree with her on most points; more so than most of the current candidates. I could see myself voting for her if she runs; maybe in the primary, definitely in the general if she were to win. But, bring her up in conversations with women, even conservative women, and the claws come out.

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Many of Sarah's strongest supporters here on Free Republic are women.

75 posted on 09/29/2011 1:40:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Scythian
my mother in-law is a staunch conservative, she voted for Obama becasue she didn’t like Palin,

(???) You're going to have to explain that one to me...

Example: When I don't like the GOP nominee, I vote Constitution Party, or Mickey Mouse, or [blank], or something... not Dem (unless we could get Zell Miller to run, or something).
76 posted on 09/29/2011 1:40:46 PM PDT by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: Scythian; BufordP

I wouldn’t pick Palin for VP, either, given the way she’s been dicking with the American people on whether she’s running or not. Other than that, I have no problem with her at the moment.

(Christie, on the other hand, is not dicking with the American People. He has said, time and again, that he’s not running, but one can be forgiven for thinking otherwise, given the media buzz.)


77 posted on 09/29/2011 1:41:05 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Kartographer

Is there anything that precludes a candidate from picking and announcing their VP choice before the primary? If Palin and Cain were to team up early there would be no stopping them.


78 posted on 09/29/2011 1:41:39 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: Scythian
In full disclosure I was a big time Sarah fan, but no longer

I still like her, but the "maybe-maybe not" tease went on too long. She overplayed that hand.

79 posted on 09/29/2011 1:41:48 PM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: pgkdan
Another PDS’er heard from,don't forget to ping your sweeties.
80 posted on 09/29/2011 1:42:33 PM PDT by samantha (Sarah is our TEAple. candidate for America the Beautiful...)
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