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To: patlin

“The LAW of “Natural Born” was defined by God...”

Golly, I didn’t know that was part of the 10 Commandments, or that the Jews deserve persecution over it.

The natural law would say someone born naturally is natural born. The USA has NEVER used “blood of the father” to determine citizenship. We go by where someone is born. That is why we don’t submit genealogies to get a passport...

More to the point, “natural born citizen” was a term with a precise legal meaning at the time the Constitution was adopted. So deal with THAT meaning, and not what you pull out of your butt.


144 posted on 09/29/2011 11:06:42 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers
Golly, I didn’t know that was part of the 10 Commandments, or that the Jews deserve persecution over it. The natural law would say someone born naturally is natural born. The USA has NEVER used “blood of the father” to determine citizenship

Oh contraire! Your problem is that you think the LAW is confined to 10, when if fact, God had no intention of stopping. It might behoove you to actually study The Book because the 2nd set that was written after the 1st set of tablets were broken do not start out the same as the 1st. The 2nd set starts out at the end, then encompasses the beginning & Levin being a devout Jew surely knows this but as usual, politics before principle & Law, remains the demise of man & society. The Bible specifically defines who are the natural born and who are not, but a Greco-Roman mindset is not able see the truth and the last I checked, our God was neither a Greek or a Roman but chose Hebrew for His pure language.

146 posted on 09/29/2011 11:17:08 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Mr Rogers
Exodus 12:49 ~ One law shall be for the native-born (of man, native Israelite, i.e. born of an Israelite; BDB Hebrew Definitions) and for the stranger (sojourner, a temporary inhabitant, a newcomer lacking inherited rights, foreigners in Israel; BDB Hebrew Definitions) who dwells among you.”

Deuteronomy 17:15 ~ you shall surely set a king over you whom the LORD your God chooses; one from among your brethren (brother of same parents, half-brother (same father), relative, kinship; BDB Hebrew Definitions) you shall set as king over you; you may not set a foreigner over you, who is not your brother.

152 posted on 09/29/2011 11:35:12 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Mr Rogers

BTW, the last I checked, Exodus 12 still comes before Exodus 20 where the laws were formally written down, so deal with THAT!


154 posted on 09/29/2011 11:38:11 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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To: Mr Rogers

You are lying, it is not settled law.


161 posted on 09/29/2011 11:47:54 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: Mr Rogers
The natural law would say someone born naturally is natural born. The USA has NEVER used “blood of the father” to determine citizenship. We go by where someone is born. That is why we don’t submit genealogies to get a passport...

Absolutely boys and girls! That is why Slaves and Indians were American Citizens! Even though they had no blood from American citizens (unless they had killed some) they were still citizens because they were BORN HERE!

What's more, British Tories that were born here and fled to Canada were STILL American Citizens! You know why? Because they were BORN HERE! You see, Natural law does not give them a choice. They are American citizens because they were BORN HERE! Even Russian Ambassador's children are American citizens because they were BORN HERE!

Loyalty has nothing to do with it. What determines your citizenship is Location, Location, Location! All the Abortion supporters know this. Till you are BORN HERE, you aren't even a human being!

Pro-lifers see the status of a person as being inherent in their existence, but Abortion supporters and anti-birthers think your characteristics are entirely decided by when and where your head emerges.

Just remember boys and girls, you ain't nothing until you are BORN HERE! Sometimes not even then.

208 posted on 09/29/2011 1:23:02 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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