“He is saying that there is no rule of law right now for who is a natural born citizen, since the courts won’t take it up...”
Actually, the courts have taken it up repeatedly, and rejected BDZ’s arguments. The Supreme Court has been offered multiple cases, and has rejected all of them. That would speak volumes to anyone who isn’t a nut.
They already discussed the issue at length in the late 1800s. They didn’t follow Vattel, so the Vattel birthers reject that decision. No one else does.
Every state supports Obama’s eligibility. Every court has as well. Not a single congressman objected to counting the Obama delegates.
BDZ is batting 0.000, but she won’t accept it. She wants her opinion to rule, not the states, courts, or voters.
First of all, not all the birthers agree with each other. Phillip Berg and Orly Taitz don’t for example. The Supreme Court and other courts through it out based on standing. They never ruled that Obama was qualified. None of the discussions that took place in the 1800’s or early 1900’s ever gave Obama or Rubio’s situation a natural born citizen status. Obama’s eligibility became an issue when he was already on the ballot. Arizona wasn’t satisfied with Obama’s qualifications, which led to them passing a bill that would mandate candidates providing their birth certificate, which was vetoed by Gov. Jan Brewer. As far as congressmen, they are politicians.
You are totally misstating my position. I do NOT want my opinion to rule. I want the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States of America to rule.
Crazy, I know, to expect a legal answer to a legal question, here in America. I know I’m being really, really unreasonable expecting due process and all...
And just a couple of facts before I head off to work.
No court has ruled that Obama was eligible. None. Every one refused to take up the issue, even when somebody who has ADMITTED not being NBC (Roger Calero) was at issue in the case. IOW, the courts treated Obama and McCain exactly as they treated somebody that we all know is not eligible. By your standards, that would mean that by refusing to take up the issue they affirmed the eligibility of Roger Calero who is not even a US citizen at all.
None of the Congress-critters was ASKED whether they objected to the electoral votes. Dick Cheney violated the law by not asking for objections so that the certification never fulfilled the requirements of the law.
In the late 1800’s they said there were questions whether someone born in the country to non-citizens was NBC but said that issue didn’t have to be decided for that particular case. IOW, they said straight-out at that point that it was definitely NOT settled law. When since then have they settled that question in the courts?