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To: Mr Rogers

You are totally misstating my position. I do NOT want my opinion to rule. I want the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States of America to rule.

Crazy, I know, to expect a legal answer to a legal question, here in America. I know I’m being really, really unreasonable expecting due process and all...

And just a couple of facts before I head off to work.

No court has ruled that Obama was eligible. None. Every one refused to take up the issue, even when somebody who has ADMITTED not being NBC (Roger Calero) was at issue in the case. IOW, the courts treated Obama and McCain exactly as they treated somebody that we all know is not eligible. By your standards, that would mean that by refusing to take up the issue they affirmed the eligibility of Roger Calero who is not even a US citizen at all.

None of the Congress-critters was ASKED whether they objected to the electoral votes. Dick Cheney violated the law by not asking for objections so that the certification never fulfilled the requirements of the law.

In the late 1800’s they said there were questions whether someone born in the country to non-citizens was NBC but said that issue didn’t have to be decided for that particular case. IOW, they said straight-out at that point that it was definitely NOT settled law. When since then have they settled that question in the courts?


128 posted on 09/29/2011 10:49:08 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

“Dick Cheney violated the law by not asking for objections so that the certification never fulfilled the requirements of the law.”

What are you talking about?


132 posted on 09/29/2011 10:53:21 AM PDT by Politics4US
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To: butterdezillion

“No court has ruled that Obama was eligible.”

Actually, Indiana did. No other court has BOTHERED with these cases, since there is legally speaking no case. It has been settled law for over 100 years. Courts do not take cases to issue rulings when the law is already well established. Particularly not the US Supreme Court!

I know you don’t like the results of WKA, but the court dealt with the issue at length. The closest birthers come to a case is that Obama’s father was not intending to reside here permanently - and that is a pretty slim basis for overturning an election. After all, WKA’s parents didn’t remain in the USA either.


139 posted on 09/29/2011 10:58:41 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: butterdezillion
I want the decision of the Supreme Court of the United States of America to rule.

"You can't always get what you want. But if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need." (Jagger v. Richards, 1968)

173 posted on 09/29/2011 12:03:40 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: butterdezillion

Butter, we’re on the losing side of this issue, but we’re just too dumb to see it. Maybe there was a time when the average American man or woman would not think ‘natural born [American] citizen’ is just another way of saying ‘half-foreign’. Maybe they would question the idea that being born of foreigners on or near American soil, raised as a foreigner and unable even to name the correct number of Am. states equates to a ‘Natural Born [American] Citizen.

Now, most people know better. Of course the Founders were PC. Of course they wanted to enshrine the rights of foreigners/foreign enemies to father future presidents. Of course they believed in the magic pixie dust of American soil, and didn’t think heritage or a common culture had one whit to do w it.

We need to get on board, and realize how sanctified the Framers considered the rights of foreign enemies to father presidents. Otherwise, we’re living in the dark ages. We need to get on the post-modern bandwagon, and join the hew and cry for the rights of foreigners. After all, they shouldn’t be discriminated against just because they hate us and want to destroy the Republic.


184 posted on 09/29/2011 12:16:33 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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