Posted on 09/29/2011 8:43:31 AM PDT by Politics4US
Mark Levin says Rubio is a natural born citizen, and threatens to ban birthers on his social sites.
Well of course I will say that I did read Mark’s book ‘Men in Black’ and thought very highly of it. Which is why I am disappointed in the position Levin is taking now. Besides that I have no ‘guru’ as you seem to require. There are some people I do highly respect (like Alan Keyes though he gets little support from conservatives so maybe there are some things I don’t know about him) but unfortunately there are not many well known conservatives that espouse a strong defense for the Constitution. Mark was someone who I really thought would be the ‘great one’ in this regard.
As far as sources though there are many I have read. I am at work though now and not a home so I can’t look through sources.
If Mark were to take a detailed stand on the issue and actually address the issue then I would at least respect that he cared but instead he fails to address it at all with the exception of occasional cheap shots on the issue. Mark should give his definition of a NBC and explain how he comes to such a conclusion.
and that is precisely why we need to
Build The Fence
Agreed, its bull, it has not been set at all, I was just temporarily agreeing that it has been set in order to make a point that even if it has, it is not necessarily right...as in roe v wade and others. SCOTUS changes with the times, and it is possible that SCOTUS will affirm obamacare, which will mean that, given such a decision, the feds will have virtually unlimited power over the citizenry. And that “standard” will most definitly not only be wrong, it will be VERY WRONG!
“If they don’t give a rip about the rule of law, then why would R’s be any better than Obama?...I’m just telling y’all in advance so you know whether or not you really want to play this game of chicken.”
The rule of law - does that mean the law as it is known and accepted by all 50 states, every state DA, every member of Congress and every court in the USA?
Or does it mean butterdezillion’s law, as formed in her mind and rejected by everyone else?
Who made you dictator? What gives you the right to overrule every state & court in the union? Do you have the right to help Obama get in office? Yes. But you will NOT be supporting the rule of law. You’ll be supporting your own delusions - which you are free to do, but I don’t have to respect you for it.
Help me out. Find something I can read online where the SCOTUS has refused to hear it. And I tried to google and find that the SCOTUS can just decide to rule on this without a case being brought somehow. I admit ignorance here, but I really thought the process was for a case to work it’s way up there. As far as I know there is no case, but maybe?
no this is why we have legislatures. You enact laws to change the ruling.
I know that the Declaration says that life is an inalienable right, but is there really a Constitutional protection for life?
I have great respect for Mark Levin.
I understand his interpretation of the “natural born citizen” clause.
The rational for that form most likely sees the “anchor baby” issue as a problem whose cause rests in our faulty border control and immigration laws, as well as our failure to enforce our immigration laws, but those errors, not his interpretation of the Constitution is how we get the “anchor babies” issue (due to the numbers).
I think to him that a different interpretation would be akin to “throwing out the baby [the Constitution] with the bath water” [the consequences (”anchor babies”} of poorly executed border security and immigration laws].
However,
my own big question mark is, having listened to Mark Levin for years, my Alzheimers addled memory thought that prior to this opinion he has with regard to Marco Rubio, I thouhgt that Mark’s opinion on “anchor babies” fell to the other side (against them being thought of as natural born citizens).
So, my second question, IF THE FIRST ONE IS TRUE (which I am uncertain about) is:
if Mark is pandering to Hispanics , at this point in time.
Maybe I am wrong and maybe he has always had the opinion on “natural born citizen” as he now accepts it in the case of Marco Rubio. I hope that is the case, for at least it would confirm that Mark’s Constitutional opinions have been consistent.
No matter my own opinion on this issue, I have, and still have great respect for Mark as an informed Conservative intellect when it comes to the Constitution and the history of court decisions of a “Constitutional” nature.
You sound like a troll, an idiot and a comspiracy theorist, but then I repeat myself. Please define "us" Kemosabe.
The constitutional wing is a good example of the old maxim, hard cases make bad law
. In their zeal to find a magic bullet to dispatch the Traitor in Chief, and in frustration at failing to prove he wasn't born in the US, the saner birthers finally cooked up the whole Vattel nonsense in late 2008. Now they are stuck with their bogus theory and feel compelled to apply it to the likes of Rubio and Jindal. Morons!
There is also the practical consideration: court action cannot remove a president. Impeachment is the only remedy. But if you have the two thirds of the Senate you need for that, then you don't need bogus theories of eligibility. Bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia ought to be enough!
Mark Levin has no legal authority to decide Constitutionality. If I get arrested and tell the cop, “But Mark Levin said....” they would laugh me off the face of the earth. We have positions of authority for a reason. Opinions are a dime a dozen, some good, some bad. What is legally binding is what the highest court to rule on it has said.
Right now that’s nobody. No court would rule on it. That’s not right. You know that’s not right. If SCOTUS says Marco Rubio is constitutionally eligible fine. I will live by that. Until they do, I have no idea whether I can vote for the guy without violating the US Constitution or not. By refusing to give a ruling they leave me unable to vote. They have necessarily disenfranchised the whole body of voters that actually cares about obeying the Constitution.
If you don’t like that, please join me in pushing to make it clear to EVERYBODY - including the establishment power-mongers who decide who the candidates will be - that this is not acceptable. If they want me to vote they need to fight for my ABILITY to vote with a clear conscience.
The Supreme Court was offered a case (Berg v. Obama) in Dec 2008, before Obama took office. They declined to hear it.
They have been offered many cases, and declined them all. I suspect it is because they consider it settled law for over 100 years, and thus not worthy of review.
He is saying that there is no rule of law right now for who is a natural born citizen, since the courts won’t take it up, and that the Democrats and Republicans don’t care.
“Us”, as I used it, refers to anybody who cares about the rule of law.
Yeah, I know. It’s a freaky, idiot, whacked-out, conspiracy type issue. Definitely not what any of the cool people are worried about. Which is exactly how we got to the point where we have bags of chopped-off heads showing up, rape trees, and a government that sells guns to drug cartels, refuses to prosecute blacks, and steals money from secured investors to give to the unions instead.
Chicken doo-doo, I know. Sorry to be such a crazy pain in the rear for all you cool people.
Rubio wasn’t an anchor baby. An anchor baby is born to someone who is here illegally, or on a temporary visa.
WKA arguably requires someone to be domiciled in the US, which would include being here legally and for an extended stay (or possibly with intent to stay here forever).
That would be the strongest argument for denying Obama, but it would not apply to Rubio.
The people who want Rubio just want him so the Republicans can have a Hispanic candidate.
Thank you for posting this. watching the meltdowns on Rubio threads has become my daily Guilty Pleasure. Watching some of these people become so wrapped around the spokes is better comedy than anything on TV, and while the Palin wars are quite humorous in their own right the Rubio threads are hands down the best.
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