Posted on 09/21/2011 12:04:01 PM PDT by Niuhuru
I have been watching "The Passion of the Christ" for the millionth time and I would like to know more about the role of Lucifer in tempting Christ to forsake his destiny. I would like to know where in the Bible Lucifer, specifically, is written to have come to Christ in the Garden of Gethsemane and tried to steer Him away from His destiny.
Mel was telling a story about Christ. He obviously had to include dialog and story elements that are not present in the Bible.
Do you take a similar attitude towards the movie Ten Commandments and other movies about bible stories? If so, it would make making a movie or writing a story about any biblical character quite impossible. Applying the same principle to history in general would make all historical fiction or history-based movies impossible.
I don’t think Mel ever claimed his movie is what happened. He told a story based on the Bible and to the best of his ability not contradicting it, but obviously expanding on many story elements.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with this.
I heartily agree, Tal. You give a limitless blank check to anyone who wants to re-fabricate the life of Jesus when you allow wanton speculation in. I’m actually against ANY dramatic presentation of the life of Jesus, because the temptation to inject personal false beliefs is just too unavoidable, as well as the impossibility to properly depict God Made Flesh.
Actually, it was disclaimed in Scripture.
The Bible says he kept the Law perfectly. Since homosexuality is against the Law, he did not do it.
There is a related issue that it is well to consider, while you are focused on that event. CS Lewis stated it well--I'll try to summarize.
For Jesus to have been fully human (in addition to being fully divine), He would need to have personally experienced all of what it means to be human, including anxiety. He did that in Gethsemane, in an excruciating way. Somehow, avoiding the cross began briefly to seem possible to Him, despite his certainty that His purpose in becoming human was to become our sacrifice.
Luk 4:13 And when the Devil had ended every temptation, he departed from Him for a time.
Nowhere. The only place the Holy Spirit led Christ to Lucifer for tempting was after he was baptized.
Yes, mojito, but this was not from the Garden at Gethsemane
Yes in the Garden he saw what was going to happen to him, his church his disciples and God’s creation and it dismayed him so that he sweated blood from every pore and requested that if possible, God remove this future. But the Bible speaks not at all about Satan tempting him.
Satan’s role in the crucifixion had to do with the deceit and betrayal of Jesus by Judas
It’s just in the television minseries and other versions, it’s alwasy depicted as the Devil always trying at the last minute to prevent Christ from going ahead with the crucifixion.
“and it dismayed him so that he sweated blood from every pore “
I thought the blood came from him taking on every sin in the world. In the book “The day Christ Died” it states that the blood came from extreme stress and who would not be stressed if one had ot carry every sin?
Since “He was tempted in all points like we” I surmise the devil continued to temp him right up until the end, but there’s nothing said to that effect.
Because none of the Gospels make any explicit mention of Satan in the Garden of Gethsemane. It’s a fabrication, or perhaps an embellishment, of Gibson’s.
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