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Was Nicolas Cage a vampire during the Civil War? This $1,000,000 photograph holds the answers
io9.com ^ | September 17, 2011 | io9.com

Posted on 09/18/2011 5:35:23 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner

Are you an unhinged billionaire? Are you a sucker for impulse buys? Do you sit around wondering if the fellow née Nicolas Kim Coppola is an immortal Confederate soldier who feasts on human blood? Then have I got an eBay purchase for you, pilgrim!

Behold this recent auction titled "Nicolas Cage is a Vampire / Photo from 1870 / Tennessee":


(Excerpt) Read more at io9.com ...


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; History; TV/Movies
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To: calex59

Confederate soil?!

There was no such thing as confederate soil.

It was all United States soil.

You forced the arguement.

You lost.

You have no right to victim status.

Howsabout quitting your rebellion and join the Union.


61 posted on 09/18/2011 11:01:31 AM PDT by barstoolblues (proud member of the sunzab itches club)
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To: calex59

It wasn’t “confederate soil”.


62 posted on 09/18/2011 11:41:10 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: BigCinBigD

Don’t give away our secrets on an open forum.


63 posted on 09/18/2011 12:03:11 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Squantos

I never can find that damn thing, somebody else always posts it!


64 posted on 09/18/2011 12:37:00 PM PDT by Eaker ("If someone misquotes you, it's because they know you're right.")
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To: rockrr

Yes, it was confederate soil. They owned it and the feds should have moved out. They didn’t thereby precipitating a war. Any fed property on the soil of a state that secedes is no longer federal property.


65 posted on 09/18/2011 1:09:07 PM PDT by calex59
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To: barstoolblues

More apt to call it the war of Northern aggression.


66 posted on 09/18/2011 1:28:13 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Daffynition

67 posted on 09/18/2011 1:52:59 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: central_va; rockrr; Ditto
Vag, you bloodthirsty ghoul! You took your graphic from Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter! He was fighting against the vampires!

There must be a reason why popular culture -- from Interview with the Vampire to True Blood to The Vampire Diaries -- has associated vampirism with the decaying Old South.

Maybe it's the humid heat and hint of sultry sexuality, or the decrepit mansions, or the voodoo tradition, or Southern gothic fiction from Faulkner to O'Connor to Capote.

Okay, Dark Shadows is set in the Northeast and Twilight, the weakest of the bunch, in the Northwest, but y'all are vampire central. Tell me Jefferson Davis didn't look and behave like one of the Undead.

68 posted on 09/18/2011 1:54:09 PM PDT by x
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To: calex59

Nope. The fort and the land it sat upon was ceded to the US government in perpetuity. Mulligans and ‘do-overs’ are for children.


69 posted on 09/18/2011 2:19:41 PM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2banana

When I was a child, I came across a daguerreotype at a friend’s house of a Union soldier sitting in uniform en déshabillé for a portrait of his double inguinal hernia, his tool and bloated scrotum in hand. I wonder how much that would be worth.


70 posted on 09/18/2011 2:43:46 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Bulwyf

Sorry, but you’re apt to be wrong.

You’re free to be wrong. But don’t expect the rest of us to play along just be nice while you wave the bloody rag, deface, debase, dehumanize, slander, etc. Abraham Lincoln and the United States.

The only aggression emanated from the Democrat Party who reacted to the election of the first Republican by constructing an army meant to conduct war against their fellow countrymen, under the guise of a fiction called the Confederate States of America, under a still further fictional telling of the states rights issue. When the real truth of the matter is that slave states had lost their power hold over the government. Which led, not to a realization that it was time for a change, but it was time to take up arms against their own fellow citizens, in what amounts to nothing more or less than low armed revolt. Not a high minded pursuit of liberty. The South of the Confederacy deserves no honor and will get none from this voter.

The Democrat Party of today is not much better. They are trying their best to lay the explosives and light the fuse. We just await their own modern day Fort Sumter.


71 posted on 09/18/2011 3:00:45 PM PDT by barstoolblues (proud member of the sunzab itches club)
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To: Bulwyf

Sorry, but you’re apt to be wrong.

You’re free to be wrong. But don’t expect the rest of us to play along just be nice while you wave the bloody rag, deface, debase, dehumanize, slander, etc. Abraham Lincoln and the United States.

The only aggression emanated from the Democrat Party who reacted to the election of the first Republican by constructing an army meant to conduct war against their fellow countrymen, under the guise of a fiction called the Confederate States of America, under a still further fictional telling of the states rights issue. When the real truth of the matter is that slave states had lost their power hold over the government. Which led, not to a realization that it was time for a change, but it was time to take up arms against their own fellow citizens, in what amounts to nothing more or less than low armed revolt. Not a high minded pursuit of liberty. The South of the Confederacy deserves no honor and will get none from this voter.

The Democrat Party of today is not much better. They are trying their best to lay the explosives and light the fuse. We just await their own modern day Fort Sumter.


72 posted on 09/18/2011 3:00:57 PM PDT by barstoolblues (proud member of the sunzab itches club)
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To: aruanan

My son looked exactly like his great grandfather when they were five years of age. We have a framed photo of their 5 y/o photos side by side and but for the black and white vs. color and the differences in clothing you wouldn’t be able to tell who was whom.


73 posted on 09/18/2011 3:06:02 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: MaxMax

Yep! “When all else fails, there’s always delusion.”
~ Conan O’Brien


74 posted on 09/18/2011 3:32:30 PM PDT by Daffynition (“There are no compacts between lions and men, and wolves and lambs have no concord.” ~ Homer)
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Secession Timeline
various sources

[Although very late in the war Lee wanted freedom offered to any of the slaves who would agree to fight for the Confederacy, practically no one was stupid enough to fall for that. In any case, Lee was definitely not fighting to end slavery, instead writing that black folks are better off in bondage than they were free in Africa, and regardless, slavery will be around until Providence decides, and who are we to second guess that? And the only reason the masters beat their slaves is because of the abolitionists.]

Robert E. Lee letter -- "...There are few, I believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the colored race. While my feelings are strongly enlisted in behalf of the latter, my sympathies are more deeply engaged for the former. The blacks are immeasurably better off here than in Africa, morally, physically, and socially. The painful discipline they are undergoing is necessary for their further instruction as a race, and will prepare them, I hope, for better things. How long their servitude may be necessary is known and ordered by a merciful Providence. Their emancipation will sooner result from the mild and melting influences of Christianity than from the storm and tempest of fiery controversy. This influence, though slow, is sure. The doctrines and miracles of our Saviour have required nearly two thousand years to convert but a small portion of the human race, and even among Christian nations what gross errors still exist! While we see the course of the final abolition of human slavery is still onward, and give it the aid of our prayers, let us leave the progress as well as the results in the hands of Him who, chooses to work by slow influences, and with whom a thousand years are but as a single day. Although the abolitionist must know this, must know that he has neither the right nor the power of operating, except by moral means; that to benefit the slave he must not excite angry feelings in the master..."
December 27, 1856

Platform of the Alabama Democracy -- the first Dixiecrats wanted to be able to expand slavery into the territories. It was precisely the issue of slavery that drove secession -- and talk about "sovereignty" pertained to restrictions on slavery's expansion into the territories. January 1860

Abraham Lincoln nominated by Republican Party May 18, 1860

Abraham Lincoln elected November 6, 1860

Robert Toombs, Speech to the Georgia Legislature -- "...In 1790 we had less than eight hundred thousand slaves. Under our mild and humane administration of the system they have increased above four millions. The country has expanded to meet this growing want, and Florida, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Missouri, have received this increasing tide of African labor; before the end of this century, at precisely the same rate of increase, the Africans among us in a subordinate condition will amount to eleven millions of persons. What shall be done with them? We must expand or perish. We are constrained by an inexorable necessity to accept expansion or extermination. Those who tell you that the territorial question is an abstraction, that you can never colonize another territory without the African slavetrade, are both deaf and blind to the history of the last sixty years. All just reasoning, all past history, condemn the fallacy. The North understand it better - they have told us for twenty years that their object was to pen up slavery within its present limits - surround it with a border of free States, and like the scorpion surrounded with fire, they will make it sting itself to death." November 13, 1860

Alexander H. Stephens -- "...The first question that presents itself is, shall the people of Georgia secede from the Union in consequence of the election of Mr. Lincoln to the Presidency of the United States? My countrymen, I tell you frankly, candidly, and earnestly, that I do not think that they ought. In my judgment, the election of no man, constitutionally chosen to that high office, is sufficient cause to justify any State to separate from the Union. It ought to stand by and aid still in maintaining the Constitution of the country. To make a point of resistance to the Government, to withdraw from it because any man has been elected, would put us in the wrong. We are pledged to maintain the Constitution." November 14, 1860

South Carolina December 20, 1860

Mississippi January 9, 1861

Florida January 10, 1861

Alabama January 11, 1861

Georgia January 19, 1861

Louisiana January 26, 1861

Texas February 23, 1861

Abraham Lincoln sworn in as
President of the United States
March 4, 1861

Arizona territory March 16, 1861

CSA Vice President Alexander H. Stephens, Cornerstone speech -- "...last, not least. The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution -- African slavery as it exists amongst us -- the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution. Jefferson in his forecast, had anticipated this, as the 'rock upon which the old Union would split.' He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact." March 21, 1861

Virginia adopted April 17,1861
ratified by voters May 23, 1861

Arkansas May 6, 1861

North Carolina May 20, 1861

Tennessee adopted May 6, 1861
ratified June 8, 1861

West Virginia declares for the Union June 19, 1861

Missouri October 31, 1861

"Convention of the People of Kentucky" November 20, 1861

http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/ordnces.html

[Alabama] "...Whereas, the election of Abraham Lincoln and Hannibal Hamlin to the offices of president and vice-president of the United States of America, by a sectional party, avowedly hostile to the domestic institutions and to the peace and security of the people of the State of Alabama, preceded by many and dangerous infractions of the constitution of the United States by many of the States and people of the Northern section, is a political wrong of so insulting and manacing a character as to justify the people of the State of Alabama in the adoption of prompt and decided measures for their future peace and security... And as it is the desire and purpose of the people of Alabama to meet the slaveholding States of the South, who may approve such purpose, in order to frame a provisional as well as permanent Government upon the principles of the Constitution of the United States, Be it resolved by the people of Alabama in Convention assembled, That the people of the States of Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky and Missouri, be and are hereby invited to meet the people of the State of Alabama, by their Delegates, in Convention, on the 4th day of February, A.D., 1861, at the city of Montgomery, in the State of Alabama, for the purpose of consulting with each other as to the most effectual mode of securing concerted and harmonious action in whatever measures may be deemed most desirable for our common peace and security." [Jan 11, 1861]

[Texas] "...The recent developments in Federal affairs make it evident that the power of the Federal Government is sought to be made a weapon with which to strike down the interests and property of the people of Texas, and her sister slave-holding States, instead of permitting it to be, as was intended, our shield against outrage and aggression..." [Feb 1, 1861]

[Virginia] "...the Federal Government having perverted said powers not only to the injury of the people of Virginia, but to the oppression of the Southern slave-holding States..." [Feb 23, 1861]

http://www.csawardept.com/documents/secession/AZ/index.html

[Arizona Territory] "...a sectional party of the North has disregarded the Constitution of the United States, violated the rights of the Southern States, and heaped wrongs and indignities upon their people... That we will not recognize the present Black Republican Administration, and that we will resist any officers appointed to this Territory by said Administration with whatever means in our power." [16 March 1861 -- Abraham Lincoln was sworn in as President of the United States on March 4, 1861. The pretext for Arizona's secession was interruption of U.S. postal service.]

75 posted on 09/18/2011 5:04:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Bulwyf

Just like what is happening now. I wish now South would have won and not be a part of this mess.


76 posted on 09/18/2011 5:14:28 PM PDT by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people)
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To: rockrr
It wasn’t “confederate soil”.

I am sure King Geo. III had the those same heart felt sentiments about the colonies.

77 posted on 09/18/2011 5:24:15 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: x
Jeff Davis did look like he could have been Abe's brother. But at least he had a hot wife.


78 posted on 09/18/2011 5:29:37 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: barstoolblues
It was all United States soil.

Allow me to educate you on something. Your statement is beyond stupid, it is dangerous. The only "soil" that FedGov™ can rightfully claim is 64 square miles on the Potomac River.

79 posted on 09/18/2011 5:36:16 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Well it sure wasn’t confederate soil.

Declare all you want. There is or was no such thing as confederate soil.

Pure fiction and fantasy by a bunch of warmongers.


80 posted on 09/18/2011 6:03:06 PM PDT by barstoolblues (proud member of the sunzab itches club)
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