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Ok, this was on Drudge. The suggestion was that there "oughta be a law".

Which got me to thinking about the negative aspects of democracy, and the positive aspects of the genius of the Founders who gave us a republic instead.

And in particular I am thinking about the Senate, which was to be filled with appointees, who sit above electoral politics in some measure, and thus ameliorate some of the negatives of democractic politics. They can reject unwise legislation pushed by popular demand.

Unfortunately that is not something we have held on to - the concept seems to have been lost or forgotten.

But the innate stupendous lack of wisdom in popular thinking - (as in the oxymoron "common sense", where sense isn't all that common)isn't a new thing at all. It has been the subject of thinkers for several millenia hasn't it.

To make a long story short, no there shouldn't be a law, most of the time.

1 posted on 08/25/2011 5:35:23 AM PDT by hfr
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To: hfr

I just wonder if these guys really get out of New York City and/or LA too much. Restaurants in my area are dying off quickly and would probably be happy to simply have the customers.


2 posted on 08/25/2011 5:38:52 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: hfr

In other news, the U.S. is still bankrupt.


3 posted on 08/25/2011 5:39:07 AM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: hfr
The suggestion was that there "oughta be a law".

There ought to be a re-inforcement of property rights.

4 posted on 08/25/2011 5:39:08 AM PDT by mlocher (Is it time to cash in before I am taxed out?)
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To: hfr

where’s the survey that says how many people think surveys are stupid and intrusive and suggestive and manipulative and a sure sign of having no meaningful existence?


7 posted on 08/25/2011 5:46:53 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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They should outlaw the Fatties while they’re at it, too! Ban them ffrom restaurants because you may be next in line, and then before you know it, all the food is GONE!

Public hangings at dawn for those that displease Mrs. 0bama for carrying a tad more luggage in the trunk than she already does...

/SARCASM (If necessary...)

Yep. I’m in a p*ssy mood this morning, LOL!


8 posted on 08/25/2011 5:46:56 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: hfr
If they want fast food, go to McDonalds.

Longer meals are good for business - more appetizers, drinks, wine, desserts, more drinks ordered over a long meal.

9 posted on 08/25/2011 5:47:33 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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We need to pass laws that say that all the stuff that I personally don’t like is illegal.


10 posted on 08/25/2011 5:52:28 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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I sure as hell hope taxpayer money wasn’t used for this ....


13 posted on 08/25/2011 6:01:25 AM PDT by GOPJ (126 people were indicted for being terrorists in the last two years. Every one of them was Muslim.)
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First off, I'd be surprised if people really wanted a law limiting time at restaraunts. If they do, then we're more screwed as a constitutional republic than I ever thought we were.

But even if its just patrons favoring the restaraunts themselves putting time limits on other patrons, it shows just how self-centered we've become. Who the "F" cares how long someone else is at their table. If you don't like it, don't go to the restaraunt, or go somewhere else. Its the "Its All About Me" syndrome writ large. Just like drivers who go ballistic because the person in front of them is going too slow and "Won't get out of MY WAY." But the guy behind them is going too fast and "Riding my ass." I bet these same people would be highly offended if a waiter came up to their dinner party and told them to leave because they were taking too long. The quotes bear this out:

You’ve seen it a million times: someone or a group of people hogging a table for two hours. It’s almost like you want to get their attention, point to your watch and say, “hey, tick-tock, dude.”

“I wish they would move along and leave so I can sit down,” one person said.

Get a freakin life.

15 posted on 08/25/2011 6:04:54 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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It would be interesting to know how much of the time spent in restaurants is due to eating, or to waiting for service.

I’ve got nothing against wait staff, and I know a lot of kids do it as their first gig or to put themselves through college, but it seems to me to be a pretty inefficient way to run a restaurant as it is.

Make the menus electronic (so they can be changed at a whim without reprinting, or putting those stupid “special” inserts that half the time fall out of the menus). Plus if an item is unavailable for whatever reason - it’s off the menu. Put in an order-taking station at the table. Let the patrons tell the kitchen what they want directly, as quickly as they can decide. Add on a staff paging system so you don’t have to flail your hands in the air to get the attention of someone when you need them. You could pay the bill at your table too, allowing fewer hands to touch your credit card in the process. Imagine something like an ipad - not only could you learn about the offerings, and order what you wanted, and pay right from your table, but if they were set up on little stands, they could run ads of drink specials, deserts - kind of like the little cards they have now, all real time.

Then the wait staff could focus on what they should be there for - answering questions, bringing the items ordered, making sure the meal runs smoothly, and recycling the table after the patrons have left.

Whenever we eat out, the biggest problem generally is getting someone to take our order (and take it accurately), and then getting them to come take our money at the end. I’d say half the time at a restaurant is wasted time. Now, sure, that can be filled with great conversation and socializing, but not every meal has to be a grand social event. Sometimes, you just want to eat.


17 posted on 08/25/2011 6:13:21 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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18 posted on 08/25/2011 6:18:46 AM PDT by devolve (If my graphics offend you/HLS scroll down - If too large simply carefully back away from your PC)
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Food culture in America: http://www.google.com/search?q=force+feeding+geese&tbo=p&tbm=vid&source=vgc&hl=en&aq=f

Savages that are incapable of even enjoying food anymore. Just give them a TV where they can watch Jon Stewart and a slice of soggy pizza (organic of course).


22 posted on 08/25/2011 6:40:13 AM PDT by Red6
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"Survey Says 60 Percent Of Americans Think People Take Too Long To Eat."

Well, nobody surveyed me. I got over that problem by just eating smaller people ...

ta-ta-boom ... thank you ... I'll be here all week. Try the veal and don't forget to tip the waitress ...

23 posted on 08/25/2011 6:44:43 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Secede? Y'all should hope that we don't invade!)
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No wonder we in this country are so fat.


24 posted on 08/25/2011 6:45:31 AM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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Only in America do we worry about the space given to chickens and measure the cubes of humans trying to stuff them into ever smaller cubes. Only in this country do we want “grass fed cattle” that roams the country side eating leisurely and require that humans stuff their food down their gullet in 20 minutes.
28 posted on 08/25/2011 6:54:56 AM PDT by Red6
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The quoted line seems to suggest the population surveyed were all “foodies”. I think not. A real “foodie” wants to be able to savor a good meal, and wouldn’t be perturbed by other diners doing the same, as he would have called ahead for reservations.

Perhaps the population surveyed were not foodies, but idiots: If the restaurant in question has food good enough to wait two hours for, you call ahead for a reservation. If it doesn’t, go somewhere else when they tell you it’s a two hour wait.


31 posted on 08/25/2011 6:59:31 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Just another of the many reasons this country is so darn fat. Slow down ... eat properly ... you might save yourself a few pounds.


32 posted on 08/25/2011 7:03:47 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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any restaurant that puts dinner on a clock will lose customers.

I detest restaurants that rush you out.


38 posted on 08/25/2011 10:38:36 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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