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When's the Pump Gonna Plunge??
8/18/2011 | Fedupwithit

Posted on 08/18/2011 1:26:29 PM PDT by Fedupwithit

OK, with oil now trading at just a bit over $81.00 a barrel after today, when is the bottom going to fall out of these gas prices? In New Hampshire today, I just paid $3.65/gallon today.

According to NYMEX.com, the price of RBOB is $2.78/gallon. It seems to me that gas should be somewhere around $3.35/gallon, unless I am missing something.

Anyone have any insight on this?


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: gasoline; oil; pumpprices
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To: Fedupwithit

21 posted on 08/18/2011 2:00:41 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Fedupwithit

broke under $80 last week and shot back up to mid 80’s. it was 87 yesterday. today was about margin calls to the hedgies. sell what you can when market is dropping.
yesterday the crude inventories were down while gasoline inventories were down.
check out what Bloomberg’s headline was yesterday Oil Climbs in New York as U.S. Fuel Supply Drop Signals Increased Demand http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-17/oil-erases-gain-in-new-york-as-economic-concern-counters-stockpile-decline.html
what a difference a day makes. shows how much hype is in oil and gasoline


22 posted on 08/18/2011 2:02:59 PM PDT by tomd2
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To: tomd2

crude inventories were UP while gasoline supplies were down


23 posted on 08/18/2011 2:07:05 PM PDT by tomd2
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To: treetopsandroofs

Hussein wants to guarantee the economy comes to a GRINDING halt.


24 posted on 08/18/2011 2:09:21 PM PDT by himno hero (Obamarisk)
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To: VaRepublican

The futures price of oil only indirectly affects the price of gasoline. For a better gauge follow the futures price of wholesale unleaded gasoline which is currently $2.78. Keep in mind that this price doesn’t include taxes.


25 posted on 08/18/2011 2:15:25 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Fedupwithit
ObamaBuck is equal to about $1.35 pre ObamaBuck.
Probably explains it.
26 posted on 08/18/2011 2:20:37 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: melkor

“Also keep in mind that gas stations dont necessarily buy gas every day,”

Except it seems like when crude goes up, gas station prices go up before the day’s done.


27 posted on 08/18/2011 2:29:44 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Fedupwithit

They are jumping from Oil as speculation to Gold. Gold will skyrocket as a result. They feel that Oil isnt as much a hedge against inflation anymore.

Then comes grain..that will be another one to watch.


28 posted on 08/18/2011 2:30:11 PM PDT by crz
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To: Fedupwithit

RBOB is not the same as gasoline that one buys at the pump.

It’s reformulated gasoline blendstock for oxygenate blending. That is, it generally must be blended with 10% ethanol and additives before it becomes a retail product. It must also be taxed at the Federal and state level, transported from the contract delivery point (New York Harbor) to a wholesale terminal, and transported from the wholesale terminal to the retailer.

All of these steps either involve direct costs or margins for the blender, wholesaler, or retailer.


29 posted on 08/18/2011 2:37:02 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: LRoggy

I believe that is true but I know that prices here sometimes go up twice a day when prices are surging.


30 posted on 08/18/2011 2:46:25 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Beaten Valve
This was one of the elementary demonstrations in micro-economics in college. It applies to anything you are selling as a merchant.

In a period of rising prices you must raise retail prices in anticipation of higher wholesale prices or you will rapidly find yourself unable to purchase sufficient stock to stay in business.

During a period of falling wholesale prices, you must recover at least the wholesale price you paid plus a small margin or you will rapidly find yourself out of business. (Buy high & sell low doesn't work for long.)

It is not exactly intuitive but it is the truth.

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31 posted on 08/18/2011 2:47:00 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Fedupwithit

November 6, 2012


32 posted on 08/18/2011 7:21:29 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Straight Vermonter

That’s kind of the problem with the way they have to pay in advance. When the owner sees a surging price in the markets they kind of have to get in front of the cost. Most owners are not deep-pocketed businessmen (its a pretty low margin business which is why you see so many of the owners putting in so many hours in their store) and its hard to build up a lot of cash reserves to handle big price swings. Particularly given how competitive the business is. After all, most of us will cross the street to save a penny per gallon if there are two stations on the same intersection.


33 posted on 08/19/2011 5:57:45 AM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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To: Magic Fingers

Yup.

Some Sheik in the mideast gets a hangnail and the price is up 25 cents a gallon here before the sun goes down...


34 posted on 08/19/2011 6:10:18 AM PDT by djf (One of the few FReepers who NEVER clicked the "dead weasel" thread!! But may not last much longer...)
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To: Fedupwithit

“Rockets and feathers”. The price of gas goes up like a rocket and comes down like floating feathers.

They’re entitled to try to make a buck just like the rest of us. We don’t like it, but that’s free enterprise.


35 posted on 08/19/2011 6:11:58 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way. "Primary" is a VERB.)
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To: Fedupwithit
Look for prices to fall next summer. Just in time for the 2012 elections so Urkel can claim credit.

Just another reason Republican candidates should start talking about lifting his drilling moratorium and drilling in Alaska.

At least then they can claim credit for causing prices to come down.

So that will be the battle: What led to falling gas prices? Obama's Windmills or Perry's Drilling?

36 posted on 08/19/2011 6:14:21 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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