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Sarah Palin on Immigration (in her own words)
On the Issues ^ | Updated Aug 2011 | Sarah Palin

Posted on 08/14/2011 7:12:33 PM PDT by Clairity

Supports a path to citizenship, but no amnesty for illegals

Q: Should undocumented immigrants all should be deported?

A: There is no way that in the US we would roundup every illegal immigrant - there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants - not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue.

Q: Do you then favor an amnesty for the 12 million undocumented immigrants?

A: No, I do not. Not total amnesty. You know, people have got to follow the rules. We have got to make sure that there is equal opportunity and those who are here legally should be first in line for services being provided and those opportunities that this great country provides.

Q: So you support a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants?

A: I do because I understand why people would want to be in America. To seek the safety and prosperity, the opportunities, the health that is here. It is so important that yes, people follow the rules so that people can be treated equally and fairly in this country.

Source: Univision Interview with Sarah Palin, by Jorge Ramos Oct 26, 2008

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Took no action on Alaska's "sanctuary cities" Lou Dobbs notes that at least two of Alaska's cities have been officially designated as sanctuary cities: "An August 14, 2006 report produced by the Congressional Research Service listed 31 cities and counties that have 'don't ask, don't tell' sanctuary policies in place. They [include] Anchorage, Alaska [and] Fairbanks, Alaska. Alaska and Oregon both have state-wide policies that forbid state agencies from using resources to enforce federal immigration law."

Apparently, this is by design from the highest levels.

In fact, a resolution to that effect was passed in the Alaska state legislature in 2003 (before Palin's election): "[Alaska] House Joint Resolution 22 - May 2003: Establishes that state agencies and instrumentalities may not use state resources or institutions for the enforcement of federal immigration laws, which are the responsibility of the federal government."

It’s not clear whether Gov. Palin has ever weighed in, pro or con, on Alaska’s sanctuary policies.

Source: Lou Dobbs reported on lafrontera.mojo4m.com Sep 5, 2006

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Tightened restrictions on illegal alien's drivers licenses

There has been an ongoing fight in Alaska over drivers' licenses for illegals. A bill banning drivers' licenses for illegals passed the Alaska state senate in 2003 [before Palin was elected governor]: "JUNEAU (AP) - The state Senate approved a bill that tightens the standards for getting a driver’s license by requiring applicants prove they are in the country legally and by placing time limits on licenses for legal aliens."

The measure did not pass into law. In any event, Palin's DMV subsequently tightened the administrative regulations on drivers' licenses, thereby giving rise to a lawsuit by some folks who found the new restrictions inconvenient.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; clairity; elections; illegalimmigration; immigration; palin; perry; rinoricky; sarahpalin
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To: magna carta

“’the immigrants of the past, they had to literally and figuratively stand in line to become U.S. citizens,’ said Palin. ‘I’d like to see that continue’”

This puts the whole thing to rest.


21 posted on 08/14/2011 7:36:39 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Or, more accurately--reason serves faith.)
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To: Clairity

Yeah, I referenced this in an earlier thread. When Jan Brewer signed that AZ bill, the media went ballistic, and the big-name GOP-ers questioned about it on the following day or two all equivocated and gave wishy-washy answers. It was cowardly and embarrassing. But, Palin immediately went down to AZ, and literally stood alongside Gov. Brewer and supported her and the law. That really impressed the hell out of me. It’s indeed one of the reasons I respect her so much. She just doesn’t lift her finger to the wind and go the easy, ‘politic’ route, when the media starts on one of its biased rampages.


22 posted on 08/14/2011 7:36:52 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Clairity

You are a known Perry hack. Palin does not support incentivizing Illegals to remain in this country by giving their kids in state tuition while denying it to American citizens who live in Oklahoma and Louisiana. She knows that if you deny them jobs and government subsidies, they will leave and return to Mexico. It is impractical as well as expensive to try to apprehend them all. That is all she is saying. She has always said Secure the border first and then we will deal with the illegals that are here. And there would be a lot fewer if Perry wasn’t giving the illegals in state tuition incentives, sponsored by the taxpayers, to remain.

Tricky Ricky wanted not only to give them tuition subsidies. He wanted to build a super highway to help them enter.

He supports open borders and has said his vision mirrors that of the Mexican President Vincente Fox.

This issue is gonna bite him hard along with his currying favor with the Hamas front group CAIR.


23 posted on 08/14/2011 7:38:58 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Clairity

You’re right.

Judge him by his record and what has transpired in Texas on illegal immigration during his ten years as Governor.


24 posted on 08/14/2011 7:39:43 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Keith in Iowa

Sara is definately worthy. She is reasonable, and is willing to listen to the arguments.

I think what she is getting at, is those that came here as minors because their parents brought them. Now, they either don’t speak Spanish or don’t have the skills/wherewithall to make it in their country of origin. I believe that is the “humane argument” that she is refering to.

The “deport them all” position is probably politically untenable at this point, so that is where the negotiation must focus. I would support permanent residency status for these people, as long as they are law-abiding; but NO voting rights nor chance of citizenship.

And we Americans have some blame: we ignored it just as Congress did for the past 30+ years by our inattentiveness and complacency.


25 posted on 08/14/2011 7:40:19 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: greene66

Perry opposed the Arizona law. He is an open borders zealot, even to the left of Bush and McCain.


26 posted on 08/14/2011 7:40:21 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Clairity

per: http://www.organize4palin.com/immigration/

Immigration
“Let’s respect the hardworking, accomplished legal immigrants who sacrificed much, contributed selflessly, and helped build America into the greatest melting pot on earth! We need to understand the importance of America’s fair immigration laws.” -Facebook post(5/16/2010)

•Supportive of Arizona’s immigration law– first to stand with Governor Brewer “Secure the Border” effort
•Supports sending troops to the U.S. Mexico border and completion of a fence to secure America’s southern border
•Opposed to amnesty for illegal immigrants
•Opposed to the DREAM act
•Opposes boycotts of states who implement state immigration laws
•Supportive of legal immigration
•For more, see here:
•America Apology Tour Continues
•Mr. President, do your job. Secure our border
•Hey Girls, Play Ball
•An Open Letter to Republican Freshmen
•VIDEO: Governor Palin on the DREAM ACT
•VIDEO: How would a President Palin solve the illegal immigration crisis?


27 posted on 08/14/2011 7:41:43 PM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: Clairity

I really hate the part were she said, “ President Fox’s open borders vision is a vision I can embrace.” Oh, wait... Governor Goodhair said that!!


28 posted on 08/14/2011 7:43:41 PM PDT by allsouthern
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To: Clairity
Perhaps you should update your attacks, eh?

I think every other state on the border should emulate what Arizona has done," she said on FOX News Wednesday night. "Jan Brewer, the governor of Arizona, has taken upon herself, her state government, to do what the feds should have been doing all along and say, 'No, we're going to secure this border.'

"From there, then, once that is taken care of, we can deal with those who are here illegally and we can figure out all that immigration reform that needs to take place. Yes, other states should do what Arizona is doing," she said.

She posted on her Facebook page Tuesday about immigration for the second time in a week.

Photo: Sarah Palin Takes Stand on Immigration: Palin Enters Immigration Debate, After Endorsing Arizona Illegal Immigration Law
David Wallace/The Arizona Republic/AP Photo
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, left, shakes...
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, left, shakes the hand of Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer while speaking at a news conference about border security at the JW Marriott Desert Ridge in Phoenix on Saturday, May 15, 2010. Brewer and Palin blamed President Barack Obama for the state law cracking down on illegal immigration, saying the measure is Arizona's attempt to enforce immigration laws because the federal government won't do it.

"Arizonans have the courage to do what the Obama administration has failed to do in its first year and a half in office, namely secure our border and enforce our federal laws," she wrote. "And as a result, Arizonans have been subjected to a campaign of baseless accusations by the same people who freely admit they haven't a clue about what they're actually campaigning against."

A Palin spokesperson declined to comment for this story.

The former Alaska governor sparked controversy Saturday with her comments at a campaign event for Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer.

"Now this state has enacted a law -- it mirrors the federal law -- which allows police to ask those they otherwise have stopped to provide a driver's license or other verification of legal presence. I think for most American people the reaction to this would be, 'Why haven't the police already been doing that?'" Palin asked the crowd.

She encouraged the Highland Park High School girls basketball team the week before to "go rogue" after school administrators canceled its participation in an Arizona tournament, citing safety concerns and the state's new immigration law.

She later posted on Facebook: "These boycotts of Arizona will not help the state or lead to positive change. Economic and political boycotts of our nation's 48th state will hurt all Arizonans, including all members of the Hispanic community."

Palin's back-to-back flurry of comments marked her public entry into an issue that had not previously been a prominent part of her conservative mix of issues, which included energy, fiscal conservatism and small government.

"She had actually been fairly positive about immigration reform as a vice presidential candidate," said Frank Sharry, executive director of America's Voices, a liberal-leaning immigration reform group that immediately criticized Palin.

"When she decided to embrace the Arizona show-me-your-papers law, we thought it justified criticizing her for embracing a law that institutionalized racial and ethnic discrimination," Sharry said.

A Palin Change of Heart?

As a vice-presidential candidate, Palin told Spanish-language television network Univision during an interview Oct. 26, 2008, "There is no way that in the U.S. we would roundup every illegal immigrant ... there are about 12 million of the illegal immigrants. ... Not only economically is that just an impossibility but that's not a humane way anyway to deal with the issue."

Her GOP presidential running mate, Sen. John McCain, had taken a similar stance, arguing for a comprehensive immigration plan, a multi-faceted approach that includes border patrol, a crackdown on illegal hiring, legalizing immigrants already in the United States and creating a more flexible immigration system. The Arizona law and its more stringent provisions were not part of the national debate at the time.

But Palin came out last Saturday in clear support of Arizona's new law, which would be the most robust in the nation in terms of targeting people suspected of being illegal immigrants. The law is set to take effect July 29, barring any successful legal challenges.

Sharry said Palin's comments risk alienating Latino voters, the fastest-growing group of voters, from the Republican Party. Latino voter registration grew 54 percent and turnout grew 64 percent from 2000 to 2008, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

And of course, here's Jimmy Ricks' reply:

"I fully recognize and support a state's right and obligation to protect its citizens, but I have concerns with portions of the law passed in Arizona and believe it would not be the right direction for Texas," Perry said in a written statement. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/29/texas-governor-arizona-immigration-law-right-texas/#ixzz1V3lmpzvy

But wait, there's more:

PALIN: May 23rd, 2011:

PALIN: The immigrants of the past, they had to literally and figuratively stand in line and follow rules to become U.S. citizens. I’d like to see that continue. And unfortunately, the DREAM Act kind of usurps that-the system that is a legal system to make sure that immigrants who want to be here legally, working hard, producing and supplying revenue and resources for their families, that they’re able to do that right and legally. Unfortunately, the DREAM Act doesn’t accomplish that.

And what did Perry do for illegals in Texas???

Rick Perry Stands By Texas DREAM Act The potential 2012 candidate signed legislation in 2001 allowing some illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition.

In sharp contrast to the national Republican Party line, Texas Gov. Rick Perry still supports his state's version of the so-called DREAM Act, which permits foreign-born children of illegal immigrants to pay in-state college tuition. "To punish these young Texans for their parents' actions is not what America has always been about," the potential dark horse GOP candidate told the New Hampshire Union Leader in his first New Hampshire interview of the 2012 campaign cycle.

Yeah, let's reward illegal activity!

And finally, amnesty:

O'Reilly:  So you're President of the United States - Sarah Palin. You send how many National Guards to the border right away to secure it?

Palin: 
However many you need  - this is the top priority. This is a national security issue..

O'Reilly:
  (interrupts) Alright,  but I'm talking  Texas, California,  New Mexico,  all of 'em. So, you send maybe ten , fifteen thousand national guards down there to assist the border control. Yes?

Palin:  Whatever it takes, whatever it takes.

O'Reilly:
  Alright, so you militarize the border, ah, you, you finish the fence. Finish building the fence from Brownsville to San Diego. Yes?

Palin:
Yep.

O'Reilly: Now we have twelve million people staring at you. And you  say to those people, you're in here illegally, you broke civil law - by coming in here. Um, now are you going to deport them? What are you going to do?

Palin:   Well, again, we, first let me go back to the importance of securing the border. If we start talking about amnesty before...

O Reilly (interrupts) No, no, well, we got that, we got that, Governor. Everybody...All Factor people watching this

Palin: (interrupts) No, we don't.

O Reilly (interrupts) Yeah, the people watching this program have it. We have it.  We assume that you  - as president -  would secure the border. I've confidence you would do that. But now you have to look into it. Alright and you've got 12 million people staring at you. What are you going to have them do?

Palin:  You're not going to give them a free pass.You're not going to say - ok -  you and, ah,  anybody else who wants to scree across this porous border between now and when we do finally get it fenced in and physically secure  - we're going to give you a free pass.  And just because you've broken laws in the past  know we can trust you...

O Reilly:
(interrupts) Alright , no amnesty.
 
Palin:  No - no amnesty - which means

O Reilly: (interrupts) But what do you do with these folks? Do you make them register with the federal government? Do you tell them they have sixty days to get outta here before we put you in jail? What  do we do with them?

Palin: Do we make them register with the Federal government? Yes, we do. We have to

O Reilly. (interrupts) Yes,  so we know who they, where they are...

Palin:
Yes, exactly. So in answer to that question, absolutely. We 're not giving them a free pass.  We're not going  to reward the bad behavior.

O Reilly: (interrupts)  Alright, So you don't reward the bad behavior. You make them register with the federal government.  Say you give them sixty days to register with the fed gov., there's a form at the Post Office  they have to send  like a census form, alright.   Say they don't do it? Alright. 

Palin:  You deport them.

O Reilly: (interrupts) Ok so After a period of time, the ones that don't cooperate then  you catch them, they're gone. Now you have these people that register. You are going to have millions of them. Then they register and they say - ok we obeyed what President Palin told us to do -then what? -  do you give them green cards to work right away, what do you do with them?

Palin: You know there has to be that expectation that they will work and that  they will contribute.  Bill, It makes me uncomfortable that we're even going down that path so far when ...

O Reilly: (interrupts)You have to though.

Palin: No, no

O Reilly: (interrupts) You have to go down that path, it's gonna come up.

Palin:  No. American citizens who are -    who are here lawfully -  they need to be  the ones with the  first shot at getting these jobs. We cannot make it easy on those who have chosen to be illegal -  illegally here, to disobey our laws.  No!

O Reilly:  No, we can't make it easy,  but they're here and we can't starve them to death.  And If they can't work, if they don't have a green card to work, ah,  they're gonna be hosed. I mean they gotta pay rent, they gotta buy groceries, this, that and the other thing. I mean this is where it gets very complicated, Governor. You know it gets very, very complicated - because you are rewarding bad behavior. You let them stay in the United States because they came in  illegally.

Palin:  Then let's keep it, then, then we won't complicate it any more. Let's keep it simple. And  let's say no that if you are here illegally,  if you don't follow the steps that  at some point  in immigration reform that we are going to be able to provide that will allow you somehow to be able to work - if you are not going to do that, then  you will be deported. You  will  be gone.

O Reilly:  (interrupts) Ok, we've established that. We've established that though.

Palin: Let's look at case history, let's look at case history. Let's look at what political hero, Ronald Reagan  tried to do with three million illegals all those years ago.

O Reilly: (interrupts) He botched it though governor.  Reagan botched it. He botched it.

Palin: Exactly, that's what I'm saying. So that's what I'm saying, so we learn from history. We won't do what, what  he did in that respect in that round.

O Reilly:  No but you're gonna have to - whoever the next president is, is going to have to deal with 12 million people and that is  going to be very, very difficult.

29 posted on 08/14/2011 7:44:52 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

We are already seeing just that in Alabama. Self deporting. Maybe to Texas. :)


30 posted on 08/14/2011 7:44:57 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: GlockLady

also:
http://youth4sarahpalin.yolasite.com/
scroll down to:
Doc 4. FOREIGN POLICY, IMMIGRATION, & BORDER SECURITY
lots of links


31 posted on 08/14/2011 7:45:40 PM PDT by GlockLady (Right is right even if nobody else is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone else is doing it.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Pretty easy to use the first thing that pops up in a Google search.


32 posted on 08/14/2011 7:45:44 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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To: onyx; Clairity

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,592942,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, now, I know that your past as governor of Alaska didn’t — was not the same time that Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona has gotten into office, but I assume that sort of governor to governor...
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: What’s your thought on the heat that she’s taking over this statute?
PALIN: I’m proud of Jan Brewer for standing up for the constituents in her state, sending a message to Washington, sending a message to President Obama saying, Hey, you need to do your job, sir. And if you’re not going to do it, OK, then we are compelled to do the job for you until you get it right.
President Obama has been suspiciously silent on this issue, hasn’t he? We don’t even know where he stands on immigration reform or securing our borders. He doesn’t talk about it. He gets to punt on that one. And that’s unfortunate because this is a big issue. It’s all about national security. It’s about our sister border states that are inundated with violence and with crime because people illegally crossing the border, engaging in illegal activities for too long now. And some of these border states are saying, Now we’ve had enough. I admire Jan Brewer for taking a stand.
VAN SUSTEREN: Why do you think — I mean, for 20-some years, maybe even longer, even going back to President Reagan — everyone has always said, We’re going to secure the borders.
PALIN: Yes.
VAN SUSTEREN: Nobody has done anything. I mean, or almost nothing.
PALIN: Because they’ve made it political and they haven’t understood that unsecure borders isn’t fair to anybody. It’s not fair to American citizens who ware here legally, paying taxes, following the rules, doing all the things that an American citizen is expected to do. It’s not fair to them. But it’s not fair to the illegal aliens, either, here. They want to come pursue an American dream. Some of them do want to be here to work. But they’re forever going to have to hide because, you know, government’s going to crack down on them when (INAUDIBLE)
So they need to follow that path of legal citizenship, obviously. But these politicians, presidents in the past who have not secured the border, they’ve made it a political issue. They haven’t wanted to tick off a potential base of Hispanic voters, so they haven’t made the tough decisions. And that’s no way to solve the problem. That’s no way to solve any challenge in America, by ducking and hiding and creating division and making these partisan issues out of it.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, we have still more with Governor Sarah Palin. Governor Palin is blunt about what she would do about illegal immigration. She’s going to tell you.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
VAN SUSTEREN: Continuing with former governor Sarah Palin on illegal immigration.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
VAN SUSTEREN: Both parties have made promises. I mean, we pull up sound bites where, you know, both sides, you know, Democrat, Republicans, say, you know, Secure the border, secure the border. And then once in office, we certainly don’t see a whole lot of action. Had the election gone another way, or even if you were president, what would you do about immigration?
PALIN: The very first thing is literally secure the border!
VAN SUSTEREN: How?
PALIN: People mock the idea of a fence. What’s wrong with building a fence? Yes, let’s physically secure the border. Let’s ramp up border control. Let’s provide the tools for those who are putting their lives on the line in order to stop illegal immigration of these aliens. Those are a couple of things.
And then you don’t start talking about amnesty, either, kind of as this last-minute, Oh, anybody who’s here in the country right now, we’re going to provide you amnesty, and even though you’ve broken the law and we are a nation of laws, you’ve broken that, we’ll still give you — because then there’s going to be a huge influx of those wanting kind of at the last minute to come over the border because they know that they will forever then receive that amnesty.
So you don’t start talking about that, but the very first thing you do is physically, literally secure those borders. It baffles me and most Americans why for all these years presidents, administrations have spoken about it but never done it.


33 posted on 08/14/2011 7:46:04 PM PDT by Clyde5445 (Gov. Sarah Palin: "You have to sacrifice to win. That's my philosophy in 6 words.")
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To: Rational Thought

Yep, and from what I see out my front door everyday, he is a TOTAL failure!!


34 posted on 08/14/2011 7:46:27 PM PDT by allsouthern
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To: Clairity

Then why *start* a war, if you’re just irked with others?

I don’t know you, I see you posted Perry articles, and I might end up supporting him, but not now, because I am convinced, for many good reasons, that Governor Sarah Palin is running, so my support remains with her. My Lord, it’s only August! Most of the electorate start paying closer attention after Labor Day.

You don’t see me posting negative articles about other candidates. I am busy enough posting and pinging Sarah Palin articles.


35 posted on 08/14/2011 7:47:22 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“We are already seeing just that in Alabama. Self deporting. Maybe to Texas. :)”

Texas is where the money is, courtesy of Tricky Ricky.


36 posted on 08/14/2011 7:48:11 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Clairity

1. When a politician is on record as saying the equivalent of:

“I support a path to citizenship but no amnesty for illegals...”

That’s mean they want to continue ignoring the existing immigration and citizenship laws in place and replace with a backdoor amnesty.

2. When a politician is on record as saying the equivalent of:

“You can’t round of ## million illegals and deport them...”

That’s a straw they are setting up and tearing down in the hope that we are stupid enough to be fooled into thinking that getting illegals to leave isn’t feasible.

This is why Palin is just another RINO, CINO and TPINO as far as I am concerned.

=8-)


37 posted on 08/14/2011 7:48:36 PM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: onyx

Posting Sarah Palin’s own words is not an attack.

She disagreed with McCain on ANWAR. If she felt strongly enough about the issue she would have voiced dissent.

Simple fact is that because she was Governor of Alaska she didn’t have to deal with the issue frequently as Perry does as a Governor along the southern border. That means she has less of a record trail. But as a candidate for national office she didn’t flee from the idea of amnesty. People are fond of posting Perry having a D- with NubersUSA but she has a D. Her position isn’t all that different from his.

Out of the choices with a chance of winning the nomination only Bachmann has a decent grade on the issue.


38 posted on 08/14/2011 7:49:10 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (“I will work every day to make Washington, D.C., as inconsequential in your lives as I can.”- Perr)
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To: Clyde5445; Clarity

Thanks, Clyde5445.

This is all so unnecessary, but Clarity started it...!


39 posted on 08/14/2011 7:50:06 PM PDT by onyx (If you enjoy FR, support it! If you support Sarah Palin & want on her Busy Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Check this on out...

From this:

...Republican Gov. Rick Perry earned applause from the crowd [at a meeting of the Texas Border Coalition] when he said strategic fencing along the border makes sense but the idea of a complete wall or fence is "preposterous."

Instead, he wants the federal government to establish a guest-worker program that will allow the government to track workers, he said.

...Perry was asked after his speech whether it was a good or bad idea to do away with citizenship as a birthright [via proposed Texas legislation].

"I think any of those types of legislation that create divisions are bad," he said. "We need to look at ways to be bringing people together rather than driving wedges between them.",/b>

40 posted on 08/14/2011 7:50:33 PM PDT by rintense (ABO can KMA.)
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