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Can Anyone Tell Me The Difference Between Rick Perry & John McCain on Immigration? (Vanity)
Just wondering ^ | August 14, 2011 | DrewsMum

Posted on 08/14/2011 12:20:37 PM PDT by DrewsMum

Can anyone tell me the difference in John McCain and Rick Perry on illegal immigration? I am having a difficult time finding a difference between the two.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; illegals; immigration; openborders; perry; rickperry; ricktherino; rinorick
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To: Pelham

I remember that survey, but never saved a link/etc.

The dinosaur media/liberals/trolls have been using the 12 million number since Bush’s first term. Their audience is the lowest intellectual denominator, so they keep parroting the number even as they acknowledge the number of illegals crossing the border every year.


101 posted on 08/15/2011 5:44:29 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: snowrip

http://governor.state.tx.us/initiatives/border/


102 posted on 08/15/2011 5:47:01 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Pelham
Case in point: RINOs Suck - "This account has been banned or suspended."
103 posted on 08/15/2011 5:48:53 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: snowrip

Quick drinking the koolaide and take a que from someone who actually lives here in Texas.

Perry is the best chance we have to defeat Obama.


104 posted on 08/15/2011 5:51:03 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: LOC1
WE DO need a “comprehensive immigration policy” - secure the borders, AND deal with the internal social and legal issues caused by 12 million plus illegals

What we don't need is an administration - or majority rule by a political party - that is hostile to traditional America, and which refuses to carry out its sovereign duty to protect our national borders, because that would inhibit building and pander to an internal unassimilitated 3rd world welfare voter base

Comprehensive reform needs to incorporate a national strategy that reaches into Mexico and Central America and deals with the violence and dysfunctional society that sends refugees here. Their instability is a threat to our stability.

The illegals and their descendants who have not committed violent criminal acts are NOT going to be deported - NO POLITICIAN is going to deport. NONE. Not Sarah Palin, Not Ron Paul. NO ONE. And I do believe the majority of the American public has been or will be convinced by our national leaders that a calculated absorption and assimilation must be developed. Mass deportation - not going to work, not going to happen.

Conservatives need to get behind a realistic solution and we need to take back the term “comprehensive immigration reform” and make it what we can live with.

and stop letting the wily democrats get away with corrupting that term to mean “amnesty” and causing a knee jerk rejection of every political figure who understands it and offers us a workable solution

105 posted on 08/15/2011 6:10:12 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: wolfcreek

I thought a portion of the NG was under the governor’s control. I know the lines were blurred after they were federalized, but does Perry not have ANY to use at his discretion?


106 posted on 08/15/2011 8:20:23 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: lonestar

“McCain has not lived up to his job of protecting the borders as a US Senator which is a senator’s job more than the governors of the 4 border states.”

Actually, the constitution does give the governors power to protect their states from foreign invasion. No? Being an executive, the governor has more POWER on the border of his state than one lone Senator. Not saying that governor should HAVE to deal with foreign issues, but the Constitution does give them that authority.


107 posted on 08/15/2011 8:24:54 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: casinva

One correction from your link. (thanks for the info by the way)

“While Rick Perry says he believes boots on the ground are better than an un-attended fence, he believes boots on the ground can be augmented by new technology that can help federal, state, and local law enforcement agencies charged with protecting the borders.”

CORRECTION: Perry does not approve of a border fence AT ALL. He has made that clear and to my knowledge has never said he was cool with a fence as long as it was “attended”. He opposes a fence because that impedes the “good” citizens of Mexico from coming here freely. He has made that CRYSTAL CLEAR. He only opposes VIOLENT and felonious illegals.

Feel free to correct me, anyone, if you have info to the contrary.


108 posted on 08/15/2011 8:30:28 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: DrewsMum

Glad to supply a link about Rick Perry’s support of strategic border fencing, and sorry I missed having what you were looking from those various links I posted earlier in the thread. Thought that info was on that first page with all the other links there.

But since I missed it...

Here ya go!

From:
http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Rick_Perry_Immigration.htm

Rick Perry: I support strategic fencing in urban areas along the border. But I also believe, like border sheriffs, that the best solution involves added manpower, not unmanned walls.


109 posted on 08/15/2011 8:49:36 AM PDT by casinva (Congrats to Rick Santorum for a great showing in Iowa!)
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To: casinva

Thank you!! I have been looking for a statement where he actually says that. You’re on the ball LOL!

Also, I am bother by his wording of “strategic fencing”....still tells me he is willing to leave gaps.... Here is why I think the “strategic fencing” goes right along with his “let ‘em all in except the felons” view:

The criminals and drug deals will enter the urban areas. It gets them to their drop off points and targets easier and quicker. Someone sneaking across here to “squat” will go through the more rural and abandoned areas. Wish is more evidence that he is totally cool w/foreign citizens being here if they behave.


110 posted on 08/15/2011 9:12:55 AM PDT by DrewsMum ("I abandoned free market principles to save the free market." -GWBush)
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To: wolfcreek

“If you’re not from Texas, you might not know what has been done to protect our border nor the lack of help provided by the FedGov.”

Uh-huh. Only those from Texas would understand - BS!

Arizona, Alabama and North Carolina sure have it right. Tricky Ricky is in the pocket of Globalists and big money power players, just like George Bush.

And don’t kid yourself about amnesty and immigration reform. Immigration needs to be enforced, not reformed. The “Let’s reform immigration because its broken” crowd want amnesty for millions.

The answer is simple. Eliminate ALL the freebies and enact e-verify. No ID, no work. No nothing. Millions will self-deport.


111 posted on 08/15/2011 9:16:43 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

Here in Texas we are not impressed by Perry’s pandering to illegal aliens and the criminals who employee them. Even McCain is in favor of building the fence but Perry isn’t.


112 posted on 08/15/2011 9:31:07 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: DrewsMum
Apparently the President now has the last say in whether a state's national Guard can be called up. A Governor can call them up for domestic purposes but, when an international border is involved, it gets controversial.
113 posted on 08/15/2011 1:22:32 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: DrewsMum

Governor Brewer (AZ) said she wanted to call out the NG but, the state would have to pay them and AZ was broke.

This is why she wanted the FedGov to do it.


114 posted on 08/15/2011 1:25:50 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/020217.html


115 posted on 08/15/2011 9:50:22 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: DrewsMum

Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 10:13:29 AM by Jim Robinson

“..... if Palin does not run but Perry does, he’d probably suck all the air out of the race. Either way, ..... Perry would all be excellent alternatives to Obama the commie. Anyone but RINO Romney the big government chief architect of CommieCare! …… Posted on Friday, July 01, 2011 10:13:29 AM by Jim Robinson”


116 posted on 08/15/2011 9:51:25 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: silverleaf

“, AND deal with the internal social and legal issues caused by 12 million plus illegals”

The answer is deportation.


117 posted on 08/15/2011 9:52:23 PM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: Pelham
Deport their parents and other relatives but, you can't hold these kids responsible for their parent's illegalities. (not even sure if it's legal)

I just can't see sending kids back to a country they don't have connections with and might not even speak the language. If they've been through the public school system, we've already made an investment in their futures.

Btw: They pay their own tuition. It isn't free.

118 posted on 08/16/2011 5:00:23 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

I watched that compassionate policy wreck southern California.


119 posted on 08/16/2011 7:05:00 AM PDT by Pelham ("Resist we much!" - Al 'Jiffypop' Sharpton)
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To: Pelham

I’m sure it’s not doing for Texas what we might wish but, it was started over 10 years ago and no one has bothered to challenge it.

I bet the laws in California included moving your entire family from Mexico (or where ever), giving everyone free goodies and amnesty.

This law only addresses the in-state tuition.


120 posted on 08/16/2011 1:24:50 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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