Posted on 08/10/2011 10:04:52 AM PDT by Kartographer
One of the main components that you’ll want to have around the house (or apartment) during a SHTF situation is chlorine bleach. Not only can it be used for cleaning water (although boiling is hands down more effective and healthier) it is excellent for keeping things sanitary.
Unfortunately, the average shelf life of liquid bleach (being stored between 50 and 70 degrees Fahrenheit) is around 6 months. After that, bleach will lose 20% of it’s strength at around the year mark and then 20% each year after that. So if you’re not vigilant about keeping it rotated, chances are when you need it for disinfecting water or to keep things clean you’ll be fresh out of bleach and luck.
(Excerpt) Read more at preparednessdaily.com ...
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Great read. Printed and bookmarked. Thanks for sharing!!
Thanks Cookie!
Most FReepers I believe are on the same side just some of them I want to either walk next to me or in front of me, never behind me. Cookie you can walk behind me anytime! ;-)
I understand you guys like this trend and don’t want it resisted by conservatives, I do, and after so many years in the survivalist movement, I don’t want it to become known as the SHTF movement in print, no matter how cutesy you guys think that language is.
Duke, are you sure of the safety of combining bleach and vinegar? I’ve been told that the mixture gives off poisonous fumes.
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My opinion, I regret to say was awfully uninformed. I had not read the linked article, only the headline. I actually imagined mentally the process of making chlorine gas, which is a process I am little familiar with. The E. S. Smith process using brine and electrolysis.
I thought, gee, I don’t want a housewife doing that. So I overreacted in my ignorance.
The linked article is quite informative and helpful. Anyone with a well (like me) well find it helpful.
Dear Kartographer, please forgive my impudence.
How you connect these things in your mind puzzles me, but I doubt that someone with a such a long time in survivalism as I have, would need to come to you for water, but I guess that was a veiled threat of violence from you more than about only withholding water.
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” I don’t want it to become known as the SHTF movement in print, no matter how cutesy you guys think that language is.”
Sorry, but there is no such thing as “the movement”. Not “the survivalist movement”, not “the prepping movement”; there is no movement. There is no group-think, no group, and no common mentality. There is only the belief that each person may find themselves in a situation that may require them to take action and be prepared as they see fit.
I don’t even like the term “survivalist”. It conjures images of some camouflaged idiot and his double-barrel million-gauge shotgun promising to blow away his neighbors in the hills if need be because he’s a “survivalist”, yet, he hasn’t brains to blow his nose. “Prepping” has been a term over the past 10 years or so and describes people that prepare for living and less on the Army Ranger wannabee side. Sure, they have weapons, and many are prior military and fit to use those weapons, but the idea is not about Zombie combat but about living through and long past any man-made situation. Less military minded people also participate and prefer the “prep” term and reject the “survivalist” term for the same reasons I described above.
SHTF has been a common expression for decades that I know of. There is no common term by which to describe civil unrest, war, or whatever a person may think will happen such as to recommend prepping, survival, or whatever a person decides to call it. There simply isn’t an official, formal, or common expression for it. If you can’t use a term because you think it is harsh, I doubt you have the intestinal fortitude to handle it when it comes.
A common expression in private conversation among some, I don’t talk like that to women for instance, and almost never do it even among men in private, but never to children and in general conversation and writing, this is part of the cultural decay, why you are for it is baffling. I do not see cussing becoming everyday and mainstream at all levels of public use something that conservatives would be fighting for.
I don’t see how your agenda fits in with conservatism.
For the pioneers that have been attempting to spread preparedness for decades, it is something of a movement.
For you to equate public cussing with “intestinal fortitude” reveals your immaturity, and is a sign that you are lacking in masculinity.
” I don’T think the gophers were protected back then. Probably are now though.”
Protected or no, I can only imagine that if they found out someone was pouring chlorine gas into the ground, they’d have a conniption.
At the same time, other search results *do* indicate that mixing vinegar and bleach can produce dangerous gases.
I suspect it's probably safe if you follow the proper procedures, and I'm glad you've brought it up for discussion here. Check the search results, though - some of the claims are very interesting.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I'll tell that to my preparedness group when we have our monthly meeting next week ... when we get together and think as a group - and generally discuss a common expectation of where society is headed.
We also network with other preppers throughout the nation. Disaster "communities" are forming, some even linking up via ham radio.
We have nurses, former military, plumbers, IT people, CEOs, musicians, EMT's ... people from all walks of life ... and all wonderful human beings. We even had a "Warren Buffet" type stop into one of our meetings.
“My concern in posting on this thread was only to the specific subject it covered — making chlorine bleach at home. I found that to be really “extreme”, as in extremely foolish, prepping.”
Its about making a solution to sterilize water. Water is perhaps the most important resource in any kind of emergency. Bad water kills millions of people around the world.
To discount it is infantile and extremely ignorant.
Dog poo also works for wild hogs.
“I don’t think spending a couple of bucks is a radical wild-eyed survivalist thing to do, but that’s just me.”
Only if it involves a midnight delivery. :)
I’ll second that. It gets really irritating when someone comes on a thread and side tracks it with one of their pet peeves. It’s rude, irritating and tends to kill a good thread like this one. It gets really old sorting through some stupid argument not related to the thread.
When the prepper movement is starting to become the SHTF movement, then this thread is the very place for that concern to be brought up.
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