7 P. M. CURFEW ON GASOLINE SALES TO BE IMPOSED ON EASTERN SEABOARD (8/1/41)

Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 8/1/41 | Cyrus L. Sulzberger, C. Brooks Peters, Hanson W. Baldwin

[CougarGA7]

The point of the history shows why it is that there is such a concentration of Jews in this area of Europe. They were in a sense corralled into the part of Eastern Europe.

[CougarGA7]

If it is not from the same incident, it is from one of the similar ones that took place throughout the area as the Nazis moved through. Similar events happened in towns like Bialystok, Lvov, and Riga at around the same time just to name a few.

[Rebelbase]

“The Germans regard British radio propaganda as responsible for the resistance and they have confiscated 90 per cent of the populations radios.”

Today it would be televisions and computers. Crippling TV communication via taking out the transmission stations would probably be easier.

How many young people own portable radios nowadays anyway? (besides in a car).

[CougarGA7]

As the Iranians and Chinese have found out, it is almost completely impossible to cut people off from news from just about any source in today’s society.

[Rebelbase]

Thanks again for posting these headlines.

[Rebelbase]

Please add me to the pong list.

[BroJoeK]

CougarGA7: "The point of the history shows why it is that there is such a concentration of Jews in this area of Europe. They were in a sense corralled into the part of Eastern Europe."

If you are suggesting there was a historical movement of millions of Jews from western to eastern Europe, I don't think that's the case.
If anything, most migrations were the other way -- from eastern Europe towards western Europe and America.

Yes, Jews were certainly "corralled" into the "Pale of Settlement" by Imperial Russia, but these were people who had lived in eastern Europe for many centuries.
They did not come there from the West.

The Pale of Settlement included areas in modern Lithuania, Belarus, Poland, Moldova, Ukraine, and parts of western Russia:

[CougarGA7]

This would be the Russian expulsions I was talking about. This is what caused the concentration of the most Jews to be in the area of Poland. That coupled with the long ago eastward expulsions by the western Europeans created this singular concentration that was much higher as a percentage of the populous than anywhere else.

[SteamShovel]

In response to a cursory wave the next man stepped forward silently and was then beaten to death with the wooden club in the most bestial manner, each blow accompanied by enthusiastic shouts from the audience.

How absolutely horrific.

I wonder why people cheer the barbaric beating of another human being. Fear of being identified as one who sides with those being convicted to death? Maybe. But I see similarity in some of the public humiliation and vicious treatment of others today where there is no threat of mob retaliation. It hasn't risen to clubbing and killing....yet. But then again, there are the reports of mob killings in gang infested areas, however those involve the fear I mentioned earlier.

[PAR35]

I thought the headlines for the first newspaper was interesting. "US Accepts Tokyo's Apology" dated August 1, 1941.
Three months later, they bombed Pearl Harbor.

I suggest you keep following these posts for at least the next 4 and a half months. You'll learn something. (Hint - Pearl Harbor wasn't bombed in November, 1941)

[PAR35]

Crippling TV communication via taking out the transmission stations would probably be easier.

The NATO model?

[CougarGA7]

It truly is horrific when you think about it. The hardest class I ever took when working towards my masters in military history was the one I took on the Holocaust. To have to try and envision what was going on during these events are almost impossible to imagine. I wish I could say I have presented the most extreme examples of it but I really have not. This is one piece of history that while I acknowledge it is imperative we do not forget, it is one of the hardest to recount. Personally, as we move forward with this project, I know I will have to visit this in more detail, but I also say I’m not looking forward to it.

[BroJoeK]

CougarGA7: "coupled with the long ago eastward expulsions by the western Europeans"

I'm not aware of any major expulsions, where large numbers of western European Jews were forced to move to Russia.

The instances you cited involved relatively small numbers, and those Jews mostly moved shorter distances.
For example, Jews expelled from England moved largely to Holland.
And Jews expelled from Spain moved to other Mediterranean countries, not to Russia.

I'll say again: the millions of Jews who lived in the Pale of Settlement had lived in that area of Eastern Europe for many centuries.
And their ancient origin was not Western Europe, but rather the Middle East.

[CougarGA7]

Apparently I hit a sensitive spot with you. I must be correct. I’ll keep that in mind when posting to you in the future and I’m sorry you have that condition.

[BroJoeK]

CougarGA7: "Apparently I hit a sensitive spot with you. I must be correct. I’ll keep that in mind when posting to you in the future and I’m sorry you have that condition."

??!
What are you talking about, my post #33?
Or is yours in response to someone else's post -- #34 Removed by Moderator?

[John123]

(Hint - Pearl Harbor wasn't bombed in November, 1941)

You must not have received the memo, in order to manipulate the price of gold, all governments decreed the calendar be moved back one month.

[CougarGA7]

Sure.