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The no-kids-allowed movement is spreading
Shine via Yahoo! ^ | Wednesday, July 27, 2011 | Piper Weiss

Posted on 07/27/2011 12:00:44 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

What's the matter with kids today and why doesn't anyone want them around? In June, Malaysia Airlines banned babies from many of their first class cabins, prompting other major airlines to consider similar policies.

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Earlier this month, McDain's, a Pittsburgh area restaurant that banned kids under 6 became a mascot for the no-kids-zone movement.

According to a Pittsburgh local news poll, more than half of area residents were in favor of the ban. And now big business is paying attention.

"Brat bans could well be the next frontier in destination and leisure-product marketing," writes Robert Klara in an article on the child-free trend in AdWeek.

Klara points to Leavethembehind.com, a travel website for kid-free vacations, with a massive list of yoga retreats, luxury resorts and bargain hotels around the world that ban children.

(Excerpt) Read more at shine.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Food; Society; Travel
KEYWORDS: childrearing; children; kids; napl; parenting
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To: Slings and Arrows

If old farts want my kids’ social security contribution they should stop whining about the mere presence of children. There are definitely some selfish old people and childless people out there. Fine. They can care for each other in their final years and see how that goes for them.

Yeah, yeah, some kids are brats. That can be dealt with on an ad hoc basis. And I’m not for bringing kids into a nightclub or something. But it’s getting scary when kids are seen more as burdens than blessings. We, the mere “breeders”, need backing, not disparaging.


21 posted on 07/27/2011 12:13:17 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: dfwgator
Can we have a no-thugs-allowed movement?

That's RACIST!

/sarc

22 posted on 07/27/2011 12:14:44 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: djf

Agreed. His property, his choice.


23 posted on 07/27/2011 12:15:32 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: CodeToad

“parents are too lazy to discipline their children anymore “

I think it’s worse than that; I think parents are held hostage by their kids, and are terrified of them. Sometimes when I need an affirmation of my decision to not have children, I’ll turn on “Supernanny”. Seems the common denominator among all the parents is that the children — even the very young ones — are thugs, and they constantly bully their parents. Eeewww. (I do know some extremely well-behaved children in our church.)


24 posted on 07/27/2011 12:15:48 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: bcsco
That's where the article places the blame. I put the blame on incompetent parents who 1) Treat their child like a buddy, 2) Never, ever, discipline a child, 3) Pay no attention to their child in a public place, 4) Become irate when confronted with their child's rude behavior.

Right. The problem isn't the children.

25 posted on 07/27/2011 12:16:44 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Personally, if I want to hear little voices whining at me I'll feed my cats late.

ROFL! And that'll do it, too.

26 posted on 07/27/2011 12:16:54 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: lazypadawan

While I’m no fan of obnoxious kids, the fault is the parents.

I can understand the desire to be in a quiet, brat free environment, but this ban on children in certain places is an alarming warning signal of the condition of our culture and society.


27 posted on 07/27/2011 12:16:59 PM PDT by metmom (Be the kind of woman that when you wake in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Slings and Arrows

Seems to me that a business should be able to decide who to allow in their establishments. Just as I can decide which businesses to shop/eat at.


28 posted on 07/27/2011 12:17:04 PM PDT by cg56 (Change isn't necessarily a good thing. . .)
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To: Slings and Arrows; All
The problem is not the children but the parents who allow them to run wild and infringe on the rights of others.

If any of you would like to better understand the problem, get a copy of the movie "Barbarella" and pay particular attention to the scene where the "Getter" was rounding up all the kids who had been allowed to run wild. That will pretty much sum-up today's child problem.

29 posted on 07/27/2011 12:18:30 PM PDT by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Up to the time they passed (after I retired), my parents were NEVER MY FRIENDS! They were my parents, and for that I am grateful.
30 posted on 07/27/2011 12:18:33 PM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: Slings and Arrows

We have banned restaurants from our list of recreational events. Those wonderful getaway-from-it-all moments so many enjoy have become nightmares with so many ill mannered children running unsupervised throughout the restaurants be they fast food, or other. Sick of it all.

We specifically don’t shop a couple of major retailers, because of being knocked down by kids running, and playing in the aisles while their parents shop oblivious of their kids actions.

As kids we knew what was right, and wrong. Our parents made certain we knew. Today the kids run free like animals with no regard for anybody but themselves, and what they want for fun, and entertainment, and their mouths....my GOD their mouths.


31 posted on 07/27/2011 12:18:37 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: cg56

Again, agreed.


32 posted on 07/27/2011 12:19:00 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: CodeToad
Mother: "We never say no to our children! We believe that would hurt their creativity!"

Mr. Hobbs (under his breath): "Little Creep..."

-- Mr. Hobbs Takes A Vacation, 1956

Note the year.

33 posted on 07/27/2011 12:19:49 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: Slings and Arrows

My parents decided to stop going out to eat when my younger brother was born. This lasted for a few years. At least they had the sense to know other people would be annoyed with his antics.


34 posted on 07/27/2011 12:20:20 PM PDT by camerongood210
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To: trumandogz
. . .but the ban at restaurants in unnecessary as you can avoid kids by dining at restaurants that would not attract people who drag their kids along.

I've yet to find such a place. In fact, the more 'adult oriented' the restaurant, the less likely the parents are to pay any attention to their kids. They bring them along so they don't have to pay a sitter, then go about pretending it is "date night" for mom and dad.

If a business wants to ban children, they should have that right. Just as a business should have the right to permit smoking if they choose. The government certainly shouldn't be getting involved.

35 posted on 07/27/2011 12:20:21 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Allegra

I’ve discovered that moving has that effect too - they’ve all become very emotionally needy. Even Zia the Hatecat is demanding skritchies.


36 posted on 07/27/2011 12:20:28 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“that the children — even the very young ones — are thugs, and they constantly bully their parents.”

Because the parents have shown they will not level any measure of discipline at them. I just went to a store this afternoon and could hear a 2 year old girl scream. I went over and screamed back. She shut up. I then gave the “parent” a little piece of my mind. Obviously, that little girl had never had so much as an unkind word directed at her by her biological giver. Wanna bet that little girl is one of those thugs and by the time she is 7 she will have started hitting her biological giver?

People have simply grown lazy, which is why they are fat and their kids are out of control. There simply are no negative consequences to their actions. We’ve PC’d ourselves out of control.


37 posted on 07/27/2011 12:20:48 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: davisfh
If any of you would like to better understand the problem, get a copy of the movie "Barbarella" and pay particular attention to the scene where the "Getter" was rounding up all the kids who had been allowed to run wild.

I dunno - easy to become distracted during that movie. ;^)

38 posted on 07/27/2011 12:21:56 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: RobRoy

““wipe” him!? He’s frickin 6 and a half!!!”

Last weekend ata s tore I heard this little boy screaming for his mother. He was about 5 and wanted the same thing. She went in to the bathroom. We have a nationof defectives.


39 posted on 07/27/2011 12:23:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
(OK, I made this up, but seriesly....)

LOL - you're probably right on the mark.

40 posted on 07/27/2011 12:23:48 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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