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1 posted on 07/25/2011 11:25:11 AM PDT by Swordmaker
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New OSX Lion Server is not as functional for IT as the OSX Snow Leopard Server but more useable for the consumer —PING!


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2 posted on 07/25/2011 11:29:22 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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In my experience, there are very few enterprises that run Mac OSX servers as their primary platform. So I don’t see this as having any major impact in the IT market.


3 posted on 07/25/2011 11:29:26 AM PDT by CA Conservative
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As I understand it, the new Mac OS is designed to turn IT jobs from the kind of jobs that pays 100 grand a year to one of those jobs that Americans won’t take and, therefore, business must hire illegal immigranyts. :)


6 posted on 07/25/2011 11:33:08 AM PDT by Jonty30
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I don’t know about Lion, but previous versions of OS X server, for whatever insane reason, left out the GD library from their build of PHP.

As our server software requires the GD library, if a customer insists on using OS X to run our server software, I install MAMP.

Pretty stupid, if you ask me, that you should have to install a second instance of Apache, MySQL and PHP just to get the functionality you need.

On Ubuntu?

# apt-get install php5-gd

You won’t make it to the coffee machine before it’s done.


21 posted on 07/25/2011 1:30:11 PM PDT by Monitor ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false-front for the urge to rule it." - H. L. Mencken)
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It seems pretty clear that Apple has decided to eliminate anything that is primarily non-consumer/SOHO.

Thus, discontinuing the Xserve (which was never really what it ought to have been), and retargeting Lion server to consumer/SOHO.

Bad timing, IMO. They’re just now getting into the business spaces that they were shut out of for so long.


22 posted on 07/25/2011 1:32:56 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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I doubt many large corporate users are moving to Lion soon anyway. It’s never a good idea to jump right onto the X.0 version of an operating system, and Lion isn’t ready for prime time.


24 posted on 07/25/2011 2:12:54 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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I agree with those saying Apple is withdrawing from the server market, with one difference -- I think they've been doing it for a while, and they should be doing so.

Apple excels at delivering the world's best, smoothest, most intuitive USER experience. That's their business, and they are sticking to it.

I have a few Mac Minis at work running OS X Server, for Engineering use building our software products for customers with Macs. But I don't have any of them running the network -- they're essentially engineering application boxes.

Apple is not a server/IT company. OS X is a consumer oriented operating system, and it's getting more like IOS every day, which is a good thing for all concerned, except IT guys who would like to use OS X on their networks.

I run over a dozen BSD servers at work -- all NetBSD, which is free, stable, runs on scores of different hardware, and is easy to administer as long as you like a command line.

And IMO, if you don't like a command line, you have no business in IT. :)

33 posted on 07/25/2011 6:05:11 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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