Who are the Greediest?

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Alan Simpson, Senator from Wyoming , Co-Chair of Obama's deficit commission, calls senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he compared "Social Security" to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats.

Here's a response in a letter from a unknown farmer in Montana .... I think he is a little ticked off! He also tells it like it is ! --------------------------------------------------------- "Hey Alan, let's get a few things straight..

[eyedigress]

30 more IQ points might get you close HR.

BTW, When you write a tome is may be well that you know what is written when published.

[freedumb2003]

>>SS, what is that?<<

That is your question? Really? REALLY?

SS=Social Security.

That was really your question? Which post was that on?

I just back-browsed the entire thread — can you please tell me which post you asked that question? You spent more than a few posts repeating a request for an answer, the least you can do is point out the post I missed that gave you such kvetching.

If I missed that post, I will bow to you and your superior thread-reading skills...

[freedumb2003]

>>30 more IQ points might get you close HR.

BTW, When you write a tome is may be well that you know what is written when published.
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I see you took another hit off the bong.

“might get you close HR.” That can’t even be parsed.

I suggest you just stop while you are only a little (OK, a lot but not forever damaging) behind.

[eyedigress]

“by that time we will be in the early wave of Boomers, who should have known better.”

Explain HR.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2753363/posts?page=30#30

[freedumb2003]

>>Explain HR.<<

I already asked you what you mean by that. You demurred.

[eyedigress]

I’m stoned, don’t depend on that. :^)

[freedumb2003]

>>I’m stoned, don’t depend on that. :^)<<

Well that sort of ends the discussion.

You ask a question that makes no sense and clarify it with an anecdote.

It also sums up your responses throughout the thread.

Good morrow

[Cedar]

He was just wanting you to explain or elaborate on this comment you made earlier:

“by that time we will be in the early wave of Boomers, who should have known better.”

[SUSSA]

Social Security is nothing more than a redistribution of income scheme. It is not even the biggest income redistribution of income scheme. Socialized schooling is far larger than Social Security in terms of dollars redistributed and in terms of the number of people feeding at the government trough. Socialized schooling is also many times larger than Social Security in terms of the bureaucracy generated by the scheme.

Yet, one finds even people who consider themselves conservative whining and gnashing their teeth if anyone suggests doing away with socialized schooling. They don’t want to give up their government subsidy any more than people on Social Security or on food stamps or living in government housing projects want to give up their subsidy.

As long as there are politicians willing to buy votes with tax money and people willing to have their lifestyles subsidized by others nothing will change for the better.

[freedumb2003]

>>He was just wanting you to explain or elaborate on this comment you made earlier:

“by that time we will be in the early wave of Boomers, who should have known better”<<

Wow — how in the world could I have gotten that from “Explain HR”? Is “HR” a new interwebz “LOL” acronym that is assumed? Andy why not say it as you did? And why waste so many posts to just not say it?

Anyway, my answer is “res ipsa loquater.”

[eyedigress]

I ask that you be careful in the policy of our government. They enjoy blaming generation to generation. Teachers seem to get a kick out of it as well.

They have the agenda of moving the children straight to the government. I have a problem with the path yet it is deeply embedded.

“HR”= Hotrod

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MS9fk1u6kA

[freedumb2003]

>>Social Security is nothing more than a redistribution of income scheme. It is not even the biggest income redistribution of income scheme. <<

It isn’t the biggest redistribution, but it is the biggest Ponzi Scheme — ever.

And we have people on this very thread supporting it. So, it joins the federalized education system (not allowed by the USC as you and I know) as one of the biggest brainwashing schemes — also ever.

It just occurred to me that the Civil War wasn’t so awful for the loss of life: it was the fear of asserting States’ Rights for many generations. And every time the Feds used a fig leaf to create a new Federal imperative, we as citizens, and our States, lost many rights.

And I mean it: it just now occurred to me.

[eyedigress]

You are learning way to fast.

[SUSSA]

Socialized schooling was started before the War Between the States. The federal government is a new comer to socialized schooling. Cities and States started socializing the school industry around 1850.

[freedumb2003]

>>I ask that you be careful in the policy of our government. They enjoy blaming generation to generation. Teachers seem to get a kick out of it as well.

They have the agenda of moving the children straight to the government. I have a problem with the path yet it is deeply embedded.

“HR”= Hotrod<<

Now, we are in Peter Max Confusion territory.

I asked you WAY WAY WAY back when what you meant by HR — and I still would not have understood your reference but we could have a basis for some sort of different discussion.

Children and government indoctrination thereof (and how the feds should have never been involved at all with that) wasn’t really what was under discussion.

And we boomers stood there, arms at our sides, and somehow assumed that daddy gummit would take our little tax and take care of us until our dying days. When, if we applied the tiniest but of math (as I did when I was a lad earning his first paycheck), we would see it was impossible. But by that time it was so entrenched that all we could do then (and now, damnit) was shrug our shoulders and pray that we could get ahead of the limit so we could keep at least few of our own dollars.

SS (Social Security) is a tax with no return. It should be killed asap.

We can have a separate discussion on comunication clarity another time...

[freedumb2003]

I feel terrible we miscommunicated so badly.

Please go back and review the thread and see why I was so frustrated. I had no idea what you were asking nor saying. And then you kept saying “just respond” “just answer” — all the while I was asking “to what? to what?”

It made no sense — next time maybe “what do you mean by ‘xyz’” might help another FReeper along the way?

Just a thought...

[freedumb2003]

>>Socialized schooling was started before the War Between the States. The federal government is a new comer to socialized schooling. Cities and States started socializing the school industry around 1850.<<

There is no question it was in the Federal interest to ensure the USA had an educated population. It should have been an amendment that said “Each State shall...” or something along that line. I can’t draft the damn thing here but it should have been a coordinated State effort and paid for and administered by the States.

Or anything other than the hobnailed boots of the feds we see today. Yes, they tip their hat to the States but Bush’s NCLB was a huge overreach that obama and the dems are now using to create federal indocrination — and lets not forget federal school meal programs b/c we know parents should not be expected to actually FEED their kids.

[SUSSA]

Social Security should be phased out not stopped immediately. Until recently financial planners, stock brokers, professors, etc. all talked about the three legged stool of retirement planning. The three legs were pension, savings and investment and Social Security.

People who responsibly worked that plan have had pensions disappear and investments ravaged. Dumping the 70 year-old who portfolio is 2/3 of what it was worth when he retired and whose pension was converted to a 401k when he was 55, is not good for society or the economy.

Bush actually had a pretty good plan except that he perpetuated government involvement. But his plan to phase out the program was headed in the right direction.

On the other hand, single payer schooling could be stopped tomorrow with little or no ill effect on society and improvement in the economy.

Jefferson suggested socialized schooling but the rest of the founders wisley rejected that idea in favor of a capitalist schooling industry.

[SUSSA]

There is no question it was in the Federal interest to ensure the USA had an educated population. It should have been an amendment that said “Each State shall...” or something along that line. I can’t draft the damn thing here but it should have been a coordinated State effort and paid for and administered by the States.
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That is the same argument the left makes for socialized medicine. A healthy population is at least as important as an educated one but conservatives reject that argument when talking health care.

That argument boils down to government knows better than the people and the market can’t be trusted with important issues.

[freedumb2003]

>>Social Security should be phased out not stopped immediately. Until recently financial planners, stock brokers, professors, etc. all talked about the three legged stool of retirement planning. The three legs were pension, savings and investment and Social Security.<<

Well, what seems to be such a problem for some is than boomers, who are supposed to be well-educated, should have done some simple math and seen that is would be impossible for the SS leg to stand.

But certainly, a phase-out is the proper course. But since SS is supposed to be self-funding, all we need to is start to diminish the SS contribution as we diminish the benefits thereof. By the time we get to those born in the 1965+ (who have had 401(k)s and TSAs available to them, we should be off the government teat and the government need only release the money it has held in trust.

A 10-year plan, reducing from the current 9% down to 0, 1% per year stepped down at a time would be eminently equitable and practical.

In the meantime we eliminate all but retirement and spouse benefits. It was never meant to be a backstop plan for the disabled nor children — there are other supports for them.