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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
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1 posted on 07/20/2011 5:07:58 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
German Invasion of Russia – Operations, 22 June-25 August 1941
The Mediterranean Basin
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941 – The Imperial Powers, 1 September 1939
2 posted on 07/20/2011 5:09:00 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The bigger they boast THE HARDER THEY FALL.


8 posted on 07/20/2011 5:35:14 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("America will cease to be great when America ceases to be good." -- Welcome to deToqueville.)
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The "V" for Victory program reminded me of this picture so I figured I'd post it.


9 posted on 07/20/2011 5:46:44 AM PDT by CougarGA7
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I see the Germans admit to segregating the Red Army’s political commissars from their units when the Germans capture them. Seems they forgot to mention killing them on the spot or turning them over to the SS for execution. Oops!


10 posted on 07/20/2011 6:52:47 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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HITLER IS SLOWED UP BY RUSSIAN RESISTANCE

Why, then, did Hitler go into Russia?

2) By his attack upon Communist Russia physically and communism ideologically, Hitler hoped to spread ideological confusion and division in Britain and the United States. Lessen the likelihood of our intervention and perhaps pave the way for a negotiated peace....................


We look at history as completed but at the time it was the future and unknown. Communisim/Socialism (what is the difference?) was a big concern back then and no one knew for sure what would happen.

Our future is unknown right now.


11 posted on 07/20/2011 7:46:33 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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Doing a search for J.P. Morgan and World War II finds the following. I cannot vouch for the site but there must be some truth here. In lite of the world today, I think we are pawns in someones chess game. Honor to Major General butler for being a patriot. :

http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-2/ww2-background.htm

The Plot to Seize the White House
It was about this time that an incredible scheme concerning the presidency of the United States started taking shape. From July, 1932 through November, 1933, a well known and popular military general. Major General Smedley Butler of the U.S. Marine Corps “...was sought by wealthy plotters in the United States to lead a putsch (revolution) to overthrow the government and establish an American Fascist dictatorship.”10

Butler was tempted into the plot by “... the biggest bribe ever offered to any American—the opportunity to become the first dictator of the United States.” He was approached by three gentlemen: Grayson Mallet-Provost Murphy, a director of Guaranty Trust, a J.P. Morgan Bank; Robert S. Clark, a banker who had inherited a large fortune from a founder of the Singer Sewing Machine Company; and John W. Davis, the 1924 Democratic candidate for President and the chief attorney for J.P. Morgan and Company. Their plan was to “... seize the White House with a private army [of 500,000 veterans], hold Franklin Roosevelt prisoner, and get rid of him if he refused to serve as their puppet in a dictatorship they planned to impose and control.”11

The plotters revealed to Butler that they had $3 million in working funds and could get $300 million if it were needed.

Why the plotters selected General Butler is a mystery, as Butler truly understood his role as a general in the Marine Corps. He was on record as saying: “War was largely a matter of money. Bankers lend money to foreign countries and when they cannot repay, the President sends Marines to get it. I know - I've been in eleven of these expeditions.”12

Butler's assertions that the military actually acted as a collection agency for the big bankers was confirmed in 1934 by the Senate Munitions Investigating Committee which “confirmed his (Butler's) suspicions that big business - Standard Oil, United Fruit, the sugar trust, the big banks – had been behind most of the military interventions he had been ordered to lead.”13

In addition, Congress created the McCormack-Dickstein Committee to investigate Butler's charges. The conclusions of this group confirmed General Butler's charges by finding five significant facts that lent validity to Butler's testimony.

Jules Archer, the author of the book on Butler's charges, entitled The Plot to Seize the White House, interviewed John J. McCormack, the co-chairman of the Committee and asked for his views on the plot:

Archer- Then in your opinion, America could definitely have been a Fascist power had it not been for General Butler's patriotism in exposing the plot?

McCormack: It certainly could have. The people were in a very confused state of mind, making the nation weak and ripe for some drastic kind of extremist reaction. Mass frustration could bring about anything.14

There are those, however, who believe that the intent of the plotters was not the imposition of Butler as the leader of the government, but was actually to use the incident as a means by which Roosevelt could impose a dictatorship down upon the American people after Butler led his army upon the White House. This action, after Roosevelt termed it to be a “national emergency,” could have enabled him to take complete control of the government in the emergency, and the American people would probably have cheered the action. So Butler was, according to this theory, only the excuse to take complete control of the machinery of the government, and was never intended to be the new dictator.

The plan failed, after Butler revealed the existence of the plot, and Roosevelt had to be content, if the theory is correct, with just being the President and not the dictator of the United States. Roosevelt had other plans for a fascist United States, however. Frances Perkins, Roosevelt's Labor Secretary, reports that “At the first meeting of the cabinet after the President took office in 1933, the financier and advisor to Roosevelt, Bernard Baruch, and Baruch's friend, General Hugh Johnson, who was to become the head of the National Recovery Administration, came in with a copy of a book by Gentile, the Italian Fascist theoretician, for each member of the Cabinet, and we all read it with care.”15

So the plan was to move the American government into the area of Fascism or government control of the factors of production without a Butler-led revolution. It was decided that one of the main methods of achieving this goal was through a war, and the plans for a war involving the United States were being laid.

13 posted on 07/20/2011 8:11:09 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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Sometimes it is interesting where threads take you. Following is more info on Major General Butler:

http://americanbuilt.us/patriots/smedley-butler.shtml

Most of us would define Major General Butler has a hero and patriot but yet there is an association with “ American League Against War and Fascism (which some considered communist-dominated).”

And what is “the non-Marxist, socialist” magazine, Common Sense?

What we are experiencing today is just a continuation of the 30’s. The matter is never settled.

14 posted on 07/20/2011 8:24:18 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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