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Science embraces its radical side
BBC ^ | July 5, 2011 | Tom Feilden

Posted on 07/05/2011 11:56:43 AM PDT by decimon

It's official: science is the new rock and roll.

That's according to the physicist and author of Free Radicals Michael Brooks, who argues that scientists have laboured under the suffocating blanket of sober respectability for too long. It's time to throw off the shackles and celebrate the truly creative endeavour that science really is.

After World War II, he argues, science was given a makeover - turned into a brand much like Coca-Cola, Disney or McDonald's.

Science had proved its worth in the heat of battle, but while Penicillin and radar had helped us survive it was the awesome destructive power of atomic energy that had won it.

Science's importance was acknowledged but it was also mistrusted, and the brand identity of this new product was deliberately designed to emphasise its subservience to society and reinforced with adjectives like logical, responsible, trustworthy, objective and rational.

"The scientist became the monk of our age - timid, thwarted, anxious to be asked to help," he writes.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


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I'd guess that Brooks is wrong. A period of radical advance requires a following period of consolidation and incremental advance to provide the shoulders upon which the next Newton may stand.

What do you think?

1 posted on 07/05/2011 11:56:46 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Barbarian boffin ping.


2 posted on 07/05/2011 11:57:30 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

This doesn’t even hint at the real problem, which is the politicization of science.


3 posted on 07/05/2011 12:01:11 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: decimon

A renaissance man, a top neurosurgeon, particle physicist, race car driver, rock star and comic book hero, and probably the last hope of the human race.

4 posted on 07/05/2011 12:02:35 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: decimon
Science's importance was acknowledged but it was also mistrusted

One of the basic tenants of science...DON'T TRUST--VERIFY!

Why can't liberals understand that?

5 posted on 07/05/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: RoadTest
You've got it. The Left wants to pretend that its fantasies and prejudices are "scientific," so it infiltrates and subverts true science.

The fact is that real science undermines and destroys the pseudo-scientific pretensions of the Left, whether they be "scientific socialism," psychoanalysis, or dialectical materialism.

6 posted on 07/05/2011 12:21:15 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: RoadTest
This doesn’t even hint at the real problem, which is the politicization of science.

Who pays the piper...

Government funding is driven by the political winds.

7 posted on 07/05/2011 12:23:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: subterfuge
I heard author Howard Gardner on NPR today, promoting his new book "Truth, Beauty, and Virtue".

He was introduced as an expert on the notion of "truth".

Statement #1: He said that if you talk about "death panels" often enough, people will actually believe that they exist
Ummmmmmm. Howard? They DO exist.

Statement #2: You can get your news from many sources, but if you only get your news from Fox, then you are choosing to ignore a wider world of truth.
Ummmmmmm. Howard? Are the viewers of MSNBC really that much better off?

Statement #3: The people who say "I don't want evolution taught in my local school" are pushing a hardcore Christian viewpoint and are violating the First Amendment, as they force everyone to agree to their personal moral viewpoint.
Ummmmmmmm. Howard? They aren't pushing anything. They just want a particular topic to be ignored. That's not forcing any kind of morality on anyone.

The Left has a very odd understanding of "truth".

8 posted on 07/05/2011 12:25:49 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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“Statement #2: You can get your news from many sources, but if you only get your news from Fox, then you are choosing to ignore a wider world of truth.
Ummmmmmm. Howard? Are the viewers of MSNBC really that much better off?”

More to the point, the viewers of MSNBC are missing the wider world of truth presented by Fox, ...sometimes.


9 posted on 07/05/2011 12:44:10 PM PDT by pallis
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To: decimon

The problem (in “trusting science”) is not in trusting SCIENCE, but in trusting the scientist, and the problem in trusting the scientist is that once the “supremacy of science” was socially accepted, the scientific community became an arrogant theocratic community.


10 posted on 07/05/2011 12:48:26 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: decimon

According to the left-wing these are all scientific facts:

1.) A person’s future sexual behavior and desires is hard-wired at birth.

2.) Homosexuality is natural and good.

3.) Mankind is killing the earth through attempts to live a better life and prosper. So are many other animals as well just by simply eating and releasing waste.

4.) Each of us has an ancestor that was an ape.

5.) A human being is not really a human being until after birth and so it is scientifically alright to kill them.

If this is what is meant by science being the new rock n roll then it certainly is not a good thing. All of the above is not science but left-wing BS.

There is also the aspect of our current scientific medical culture that gives medical excuses for more and more behavior and simply prescribes a drug telling people (AND CHILDREN) that they are not responsible for their own behavior. More left-wing BS.

All of this is not a good trend. It is time to put a stop to it and not celebrate it as the author suggests.


11 posted on 07/05/2011 1:03:30 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: decimon
This is Dr. Paul Ehrlich (14 March 1854 – 20 August 1915), a true scientist. He is in the pantheon of the greatest scientists who ever lived. The reason for this is not only that he came up with the first effective treatment for the then horrific disease syphilis, but he did it in the most scientific, objective, Germanic, methodical, and orderly way imaginable. A master of the scientific method.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ehrlich

He was so highly respected that Germany put his face on their 200 DM banknote. A movie was made about him, starring Edward G. Robinson, entitled Dr. Ehrlich's Magic Bullet (1940), which is quite good.

He was so famous, that one of the greatest scientific frauds of the 20th Century, Dr. Paul R. Ehrlich, butterfly expert, public hysteric, and population explosion theorist, was named after him, to exploit the real Dr. Ehrlich's greatness. The two should never be confused.

12 posted on 07/05/2011 2:43:49 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: decimon
I do think scientists are portrayed as the monks of our age. There are a lot of parallels so that much seems accurate. However, I think we do scientists a disservice by casting them as non-creative.

I've seen artists assume that scientists won't “get” their work - and scientists assuming that they won't as well! - because it's “creative”. I don't get it. I don't begin to have the mathematical imagination required to understand what a quantum physicist does. Of course they are creative and imaginative!

13 posted on 07/05/2011 3:02:12 PM PDT by texanred
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Thanks decimon.

Science is the new rock and roll?

Actually, FreeRepublic is the new rock and roll.


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14 posted on 07/05/2011 3:50:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Technology is the new drugs." -- Jerry Garcia)
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To: decimon

I like science, especially physics and seismology. I like God and Torah too. They all work very well together for me.


15 posted on 07/05/2011 7:03:23 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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