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The Nation: You Swipe Card, Banks Swipe Cash

Posted on 07/02/2011 11:23:11 PM PDT by Rabin

The average swipe fee in America is 44 cents, the highest rate in the world. The Federal Reserve said that banks could make profit 12 cents per transaction and under the Dodd-Frank "financial reform", planned to enforce this cap starting yesterday.


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Banks — which collect $20 billion every year from swipe fees — naturally not wanting this revenue reduced by almost 75 percent launched a massive campaign to pass a bill by Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) to delay the Fed.

Fed, Dod, Fagot Barny, TC Gaitner, Gentle Ben B, Sen Tester (D-MT)....

Rab can but but wounder how this mixed bag of snakes and salamanders comes about in the light of day.

1 posted on 07/02/2011 11:23:18 PM PDT by Rabin
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To: Rabin

Conserv can but but could make profit if understood what said Rab.


2 posted on 07/02/2011 11:27:13 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: ConservativeMind

The only thing I say is!!! Government stay out of this the Banks must be able to make a profit and you will just spoil it for the consumers!!!!


3 posted on 07/02/2011 11:59:10 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Rabin

Converting to the cashless society will have a few problems.


4 posted on 07/03/2011 12:08:06 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Rabin
I am not going near ANYTHING that has Dodd or Bawney Fwank's name on it.
Aren't those two criminals in jail yet?
5 posted on 07/03/2011 12:12:48 AM PDT by Publius6961 (you don't need a president-for-life if you've got a bureaucracy-for-life.)
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To: Rabin

I heard about this, but would certainly appreciate a link.


6 posted on 07/03/2011 12:21:54 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: tallyhoe

“Government stay out of this the Banks must be able to make a profit and you will just spoil it for the consumers!!!!”

No...banks are making it hard on businesses to be able to keep offering charge cards as an alternative to cash.

The swipe fees hurt businesses, and ultimately the consumer.


7 posted on 07/03/2011 12:25:32 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: Rabin

It doesn’t cost me anything to use a credit card, it costs the business 3%.


8 posted on 07/03/2011 1:06:50 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: dixiechick2000

Government price controls don’t work.


9 posted on 07/03/2011 1:26:09 AM PDT by DB
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To: dalereed

It doesn’t cost me anything to use a credit card, it costs the business 3%.


Please. You really think the businesses, who frequently only make a 5% return on stock, swallow the fee out of the kindness of their hearts? You pay the fee through higher prices.
Sorry, that is something that always bothers me!


10 posted on 07/03/2011 1:28:00 AM PDT by EnglishCon
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People that pay cash pay for the higher prices if the business charges the same for cash or credit.

If the business charges more for credit, gas stations, I pay cash.


11 posted on 07/03/2011 1:33:02 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Rabin

Pay cash.

Start everywhere, from the gaspumps to fastfood to grocery etc.

Use your debit card once a month to pull out enough cash for the month.

You get the picture.


12 posted on 07/03/2011 1:35:10 AM PDT by AlmaKing
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That does seem to be the sensible direction to take.


13 posted on 07/03/2011 2:42:09 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (You know if I donÂ’t remember IÂ’m gonna forget.)
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To: dixiechick2000

“I heard about this, but would certainly appreciate a link.”

Here’s a June 29th article from the NYT(not my favorite paper)http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/30/business/30debit.html?_r=1&;

The cap was mandated last year in the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law, but the Fed action was far less draconian than bankers had feared. The new cap of 21 to 24 cents a transaction, down from an average of 44 cents before the law passed, is roughly double the 12 cents tentatively proposed by the Fed last December.


14 posted on 07/03/2011 4:09:12 AM PDT by radioone (How Can an Obscure Guy Who Did Diddly Squat in the Senate Become President?)
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To: Rabin

Could somebody remind me again why cash isn’t good enough?


15 posted on 07/03/2011 4:40:13 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Because the govt can’t track you and your spending if you use cash.


16 posted on 07/03/2011 4:58:38 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Could somebody remind me again why cash isn’t good enough?

The government doesn't like for you to use cash. If you keep enough cash to not have to go to the bank, they'll take it because you might be a drug dealer.

17 posted on 07/03/2011 5:07:10 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Rabin

I have never even owned a swipe card. I use cash or my credit card. I have never experienced the need for a debit card— especially when they want to charge me so much to use my own money.


18 posted on 07/03/2011 5:27:07 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: Rabin

One of the absolute worst on fees is Fifth Third Bank based in Cincinnati. There motto is “Working Hard to be the Only Bank You’ll Ever Need.” But in their marketplace it is generally accepted that their true motto is “Working Hard to be the Only Bank You’ll Pay a Fee”.

Their entire operations system is intentionally designed to manipulate deposits and withdrawals in such a way as to maximize the opportunities of fee driven transactions. Their motivation to drive up fees is beyond fetishistic.Their entire culture is indoctrinated on it.


19 posted on 07/03/2011 5:59:27 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism is nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: Rabin
The average swipe fee in America is 44 cents, the highest rate in the world.

Actually, I'm not aware of any direct fee I pay whenever I use my cards within the US: credit for most things and debit at an ATM.

But let's say there were such a charge and that my average card purchase is $30. Here in NJ the government would demand an immediate payment of $1.80 to THEM. It's hard for me to understand how people can get so worked up over the 44 cents and ignore the $1.80.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 07/03/2011 6:21:52 AM PDT by ml/nj
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