Vanity - Could Gay Marriage Law Suites Lead to 50 State CCW?

6/29/11 | self

[gusty]

If DOMA is overturned due to the Full Faith and Credit Clause, would this apply to gun owners also. So if South Carolina has to accept a gay marriage in New York, would New York have to honor Florida and Utah Concealed Carry Permits. Is there a silver lining for gun owners? Interested in others opinions.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

You are applying logic to the US legal system.

There is no logic in the US legal system.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

Absolutely not.

Guns are bad.

Gays are good.

Guns are scary.

Gay people on TV look cool and friendly and always comb their hair nicely.

[SmithL]

And a Law Suite is a place where lawyers work?

[FlyingEagle]

Seems like whats good for the goose is good for the gander. Er, goose. Or gander as the case may be

Maybe whats good for the goose and /or gander is good for the gander and /or goose and/or gander and/or either or both of them.

[freedomwarrior998]

It simply doesn’t work that way.

[SoothingDave]

No, it’s a lawyer’s bedroom furniture.

[max americana]

What the heck is a law suite?

[gusty]

A place for bad spellers like me.

[max americana]

yer’ a good sport, lad...;)

[Blood of Tyrants]

First, the DOMA does not force states to nor prohibit them from recognizing gay marriage in another states. It merely states that one state can be forced to recognize gay marriage simply because another state does. Each state is left to their own. There is no right to marry a person of the same sex.

First, keeping and bearing rights is a right that the founding fathers thought so important that they enumerated that right. That right is not limited by state borders. A nationwide recognition of carry permits would simply reinforce that right.

[Blood of Tyrants]

I could never be gay. Clothes are not that important to me and my hair is always messy.

[gusty]

I stated if DOMA is overturned in the courts. As of today states cannot be forced to do anything in regards to marriage. However if DOMA is declared unconstitutional, than states will be forced to recognize gay marriage. As per your second point, I agree. However in reality, it is not in effect. My point is that if DOMA is overturned by the courts, their might be hope in fully implementing the 2nd Amendment. Like I said, there may be a silver lining. I also wonder how the Left would react. Would they not care, or could we see a 180 degree turn. Maybe if gun owners supported the overturning of DOMA because it would allow 50 state CCW, the Left would drop this like a hot potatoe (I have to stay consistent in my misspelling).

[Quis Custodiet]

DOMA or not its the opinion of most legal scholars that the Full Faith and Credit Clause will force states to honor each other’s marriage licenses. if two people are legally married in any state, then any other state must recognize the validity of that marriage and extend to them any benefits given married status in in that state.

Now because marriage confers a status, it is somewhat different than, say a driver’s license, which confers a privilege to do something within the boundaries of the licensing state (other states do honor out of state driver’s licenses but that is by interstate compact not FF&C).

A license to carry seems more like a driver’s license than a marriage one.

However, the real question you need to ask is WHY are licenses to carry Constitutional in the first place? If we follow the logic of Heller and accept that carrying is a personal right, like the right of free speech, then by what right does the state require a permit to exercise a fundamental right? Would the courts find it acceptable if the state wanted to issue a restrictive or burdensome “free speech license”?

[fwdude]

Are you trying to find a silver lining in the complete destruction of civilization?

[longtermmemmory]

no it would not.

second amendment is a black letter articulated INDIVIDUAL RIGHT.

marriage is a societal institution about children.

one has bullets,

the other shoots blanks.