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LI man busted for 'pretending' to be soldier
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Posted on 06/27/2011 12:59:06 PM PDT by Mind Freed
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To: Mind Freed
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:00:41 PM PDT
by
POWERSBOOTHEFAN
(Fear can hold you prisoner.Hope can set you free.(Shawshank Redemption))
To: Mind Freed
Sentence him to 6 months of community service - in Afghanistan.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:01:15 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: Mind Freed
Even I know what rank he's supposed to be! I could tell by the chevron that he'd be a Staff Sergeant!
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:04:02 PM PDT
by
POWERSBOOTHEFAN
(Fear can hold you prisoner.Hope can set you free.(Shawshank Redemption))
To: Mind Freed
Treat this POS scumbag like a ‘soldier” and send him to leavenworth.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:08:02 PM PDT
by
max americana
(FUBO NATION 2012)
To: Mind Freed
What A Jerk!
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:11:33 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
(Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
To: Mind Freed
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:12:53 PM PDT
by
Bigh4u2
(Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
To: Mind Freed
I have to admit, my son frequently does this.
Not to get special treatment from airlines though, more like wearing camouflage, other military paraphernalia, going on “missions” with his nerf guns and making shooting noises with his mouth while playing with Legos.
I'll put a stop to this as soon as I get home.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:18:39 PM PDT
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: Fiddlstix
I don't know his height, but I'm fairly certain you can't be that fat and in the service.
If he's 5-10, it looks like he's about 50lbs over weight.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:21:57 PM PDT
by
End Times Sentinel
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
To: Mind Freed
I keep having to turn down offers of an upgrade to first class when I’m flying in uniform - Air Force policy prohibits it. I got one from the CEO of American Airlines, and he was genuinely surprised when I told him I appreciated it, but it was against the rules. He said, “I believe you, but I’ve done the same thing for a number of military members wearing the same uniform you’re wearing.”
Not the greatest endorsement for Core Competency #1: “Integrity First”...
Colonel, USAFR
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:33:29 PM PDT
by
jagusafr
("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
To: Owl_Eagle
Yeah. That's what I was thinking too.....
Anyway, the jerk got caught.......
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:37:04 PM PDT
by
Fiddlstix
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To: Mind Freed
Small thinking, he should have gone for being a general!
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:37:28 PM PDT
by
count-your-change
(You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
To: Mind Freed
The judge should give him a choice: three year enlistment or three years in the clink.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:53:12 PM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: jagusafr
I say, “education first”. I am willing to bet that 99% of those upgraded do not know that it violates any regulations.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:54:56 PM PDT
by
TheGunny
To: jagusafr
Funny how some mil guy can’t accept an upgrade, but members of congress can.
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posted on
06/27/2011 1:55:06 PM PDT
by
jjm2111
To: Bigh4u2
Much as we might despise people like this, it's worth noting that very few of these cases involve behavior that even remotely reaches the level of a crime. That's why the "Stolen Valor Act" was ruled unconstitutional in that case in your link.
This guy was charged with second-degree impersonation, and there's a good chance the case will get thrown out of court (if it even gets that far) because the prosecution will have a hard time proving that the conditions necessary for an impersonation charge have been met.
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posted on
06/27/2011 2:54:50 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
To: TheGunny
I hear ya, Gunny - I’ve sent out the missive to my troops three times, and the local legal offices are charged with that responsibility as well. I’ve actually had to be “that Colonel” and tell a 2Lt traveling in blues to have the crew re-seat her in coach. She was embarrassed, I tried to be as discreet as I could, but “when you walk by a violation, you’ve created a new, lower standard”. In her defense, she was 1)a doc, and 2)going to her very first training.
I can hear the old enlisted FReepers grumbling now...
Colonel, USAFR
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posted on
06/27/2011 2:56:26 PM PDT
by
jagusafr
("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
To: jjm2111
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posted on
06/27/2011 2:57:08 PM PDT
by
jagusafr
("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
To: Alberta's Child
This case is quite illustrative of why, IMHO, the courts were wrong about the Stolen Valor Act. The argument could be made that the upgrade was of no monetary value, because it was free to real service members.
All this guy did was attempt to obtain free recognition to which he was not entitled; no different from somebody claiming to be a SEAL or wearing an unearned Silver Star.
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posted on
06/27/2011 3:03:22 PM PDT
by
Joe 6-pack
(Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
To: Joe 6-pack
The rationale of the courts in those cases -- and I agree with this -- is two-fold: (1) the mere fact that "recognition" is given to someone doesn't meet the standard for charging someone with a crime; and (2) there are already plenty of other laws on the books in every state of the union that apply to cases where a person uses misrepresentations like this to defraud someone or to place another person or organization in legal jeopardy. Item (2) is important because it explains why there is no place under the U.S. Constitution for a
Federal criminal statute to address this through the "Stolen Valor Act."
In the case of this guy in New York, the impersonation charge would only apply if he impersonated someone to secure a financial or material advantage that should only have been accorded to the person or type of person he was impersonating. Unless the airline in question had a specific -- and publicly documented -- policy of upgrading active-duty military personnel to first class, then the guy committed no crime. The fact that a well-meaning pilot, flight attendant or other airline representative offered to upgrade him to first class simply on the basis of his uniform doesn't make him a criminal.
It's important to remember that in cases like this, the prosecutor has to show that someone suffered harm or financial loss due to the alleged impersonation. Without such a legal standard in place, the police could legitimately walk through every shopping mall in American next December and arrest thousands of men for "impersonating" a guy named Santa Claus.
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posted on
06/27/2011 3:18:53 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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