[Ouderkirk]

No....you’re wrong because you have already conceded the point that welfare is a moral choice and necessary government function.

It is theft by government, period.

End welfare and anything that even smells like welfare, medicare, medicaid, social security, and any other program that is a transfer payment.

This is the work of private charity not government.

[gimme1ibertee]

End welfare and anything that even smells like welfare,

I couldn't agree with you more,my friend.

you have already conceded the point that welfare is a moral choice and necessary government function.

I never conceded any such thing.(And since when is welfare a moral choice?) I merely proposed an idea for getting a handle on the vast wasteland of misspent tax dollars,open-ended invitations to suckle at the government teat endlessly at our expense and future generations hell-bent on entitlements. This is one way to get to the point of self sufficiency,independence and productivity.
It's gotta start someplace.The reality is,that you're not going to get anyone in power to stand up and say,"OK,no more welfare,you're all out on your butts.Goodbye."As nice as that sounds,it's not realistic.
So,hard solutions have to be put in place by those who will make ending welfare a goal during their term.Hard to do,but not necessarily impossible.