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The Global Order Fractures As American Power Declines
The Financial Times ^ | June 14, 2011 | Alan Beattie

Posted on 06/15/2011 11:17:40 AM PDT by SatinDoll

Harold Macmillan, the prime minister who watched US power rise as the British empire crumbled, used to say that Britain would play ancient Greece to America’s Rome.

These days it looks as if Rome is declining too. The US finds it increasingly hard to drive forward its vision of international trade and economics over the objections of big emerging-market countries.

(Excerpt) Read more at ft.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; History
KEYWORDS: collapse; dollar; economy; emergingmarkets; globalorder; imf; risk; worldbank
This is ever more evidence that the United States should get out of the UN and IMF/World Bank and launch the Third Industrial Revolution.

Globalism is nothing more or less than Socialism tried world-wide.

1 posted on 06/15/2011 11:17:49 AM PDT by SatinDoll
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To: SatinDoll

Two KEY goals:

1) Get the US out of the UN, and
2) Get the UN out of the US!


2 posted on 06/15/2011 11:19:55 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: SatinDoll
If we are the Romans, are the Mexicans the Visigoths?

And I am serious about this-- just look at Roman history from the 4th and 5th centuries.

3 posted on 06/15/2011 11:33:33 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Lysandru

Mexico is a sad case. I feel sorry for people from there until I started looking at Mexico’s history.

That nation had all kinds of things going for it. It had huge and prosperous cities during the 1600s while English colonies to the north had just been established and the people living in wattle and daub huts. Mexico is rich in natural resources and a climate perfect for year-round agriculture.

The problem is the people. That is why it is a failed state.


4 posted on 06/15/2011 11:46:39 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

US Is in Even Worse Shape Financially Than Greece: Gross
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2733985/posts


5 posted on 06/15/2011 11:51:19 AM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: SatinDoll
"Poor Mexico. So Close to the United States, too far from God."

Mexico's problem is not it's people--it's the Mexican political/ economic culture. (I love the food and the music.) Mexicans can be great and productive when they become Americans.

I had this realization during a business trip that took me through El Paso, TX in the 1990's. El Paso is a nice, fairly typical, medium-sized U.S. city. But just across the Rio Grande, its sister city of Ciudad Juarez is a depressing Third World armpit. I realized that the land on the south bank of the Rio Grande was just fertile as on the north bank. The difference had to be culture.

For another example, look at India and Pakistan. Both were parts of British India. They both have military and civil institutions left by the Raj. Yet which one is the emerging world power and which one is the place about to fall apart? I sadly concluded that the big difference had to be Islam.

6 posted on 06/15/2011 11:58:41 AM PDT by Lysandru
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To: Lysandru

The government is always a reflection of its people.

Mexico has had a great deal of opportunity to change itself, and hasn’t done so. The government that is there now is a continuation of a highly centralized colonial-era government deeply influenced by Indian tribal attitudes and overlain with European Marxism.

The National Museum in Mexico City has a tiled map on a wall in the main entrance that depicts Greater Mexico (this includes all the area we bought and fought for in the early 1800s). School children are brought in, stand before this map, and lectured about how the Norte Americanos cruelly stole this land from Mexico and slaughtered Mexicans, which is a great lie.

Then there are the “hate” museums. These are dedicated to immortalizing the vicious United States and how we have victimized the poor Mexican peasants. I suspect these institutions have been financially supported by the Cuban government. We have nothing equivalent in the U.S.A. nor will we ever.

It is all propaganda of the rawest sort, pushed by Marxists.

The average Mexican idolizes criminals, like narcotics traffickers, and Pancho Villa. Let me tell you about THAT murderer.

My great-grandfather was a miner from Wales, and while working at a mine in northern Mexico, the entire family was nearly murdered by Pancho Villa. He forced all the ‘gringos’ (including women and children) into the mine, then set up explosives around the mine entrance with the intent to bury all of them alive! The miners were rescued by the U.S. Army.

Mexico reflects the average Mexican citizen. I’ve known a few who have moved here, assimilated, and never want to go back to Mexico. But they are no longer “Mexican”, if you catch my drift.


7 posted on 06/15/2011 12:29:33 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Lysandru
"Poor Mexico. So Close to the United States, too far from God."

Mexico's problem is not it's people--it's the Mexican political/ economic culture. (I love the food and the music.) Mexicans can be great and productive when they become Americans.

Mexico is an example of what happens when you don't have a robust middle class. Their country is either rich or poor. You need a country with enough people that are educated and with enough money and chutzpah to go after corrupt politicians instead of being on the take as one of the elitists.

People that have nothing are docile and afraid of politicians and police. The USA was made strong because Americans are not afraid to report illegal behavior and corruption and will ask politicians tough questions at town hall meetings. When that changes we become Mexico. I don't like the trend in the USA. The politicians want a culture of docile chumps and that is why they like illegal immigration.

8 posted on 06/15/2011 6:22:58 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: 2harddrive

Our sovereignty should be of utmost importance. That is what makes the influence of multi-national corporations such a huge threat to our country and democracy. They view sovereignty as a huge annoyance.

The only thing saving our axx is the fact that we are still the global reserve currency. The Federal Reserve, banksters, and Congress have done much to weaken that position.


9 posted on 06/15/2011 6:26:28 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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