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1 posted on 06/10/2011 10:09:17 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

What’s mine is mine ping.

Recent history, ancient technique.


2 posted on 06/10/2011 10:10:52 AM PDT by decimon
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One of the most notable episodes was at the Battle of Messines in 1917 where 455 tons of explosive placed in 21 tunnels that had taken more than a year to prepare created a huge explosion that killed an estimated 10,000 Germans.

A mine is a terrible thing to waste...

3 posted on 06/10/2011 10:14:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: decimon
One of the most notable episodes was at the Battle of Messines in 1917 where 455 tons of explosive placed in 21 tunnels that had taken more than a year to prepare created a huge explosion that killed an estimated 10,000 Germans.

A mine is a terrible thing to waste...

4 posted on 06/10/2011 10:14:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: decimon

http://www.lochnagarcrater.org/


5 posted on 06/10/2011 10:15:31 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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6 posted on 06/10/2011 10:18:09 AM PDT by frithguild
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Like many tactics of World War I, this tactic debuted courtesy of the American Civil War - specifically a mining expedition by the 48th PA Infantry at the Siege of Petersburg July 30, 1864.


7 posted on 06/10/2011 10:22:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: decimon
IIRC, the site at Messines ( where the big explosion occured) still today bears the depression/crater.

Many don't know it, but today it is literally possible to walk from the Swiss border to the English channel, and follow the trench lines. It is incomprehensible to realizie that millions died, over several years, for a few miles of terrain.

I toured Verdun, and some of the other Somme sites in the early 70's, while I was stationed overseas. To look at the momuments, with the endless lists of the dead..it is humbling experience. It makes D-Day, and the American military cemetary, look like a minor skirmish.

Prior to that experience, I'd always failed to understand how the Brits allowed Hitler to come to power, when he could have been stopped early on quite easily. I used to ridicule Chamberlain's "peace in our time."

Once you realize that the Brits lost the better part of an entire generation in WW I, it gives context to their actions up till the outbreak of the 2nd WW.

9 posted on 06/10/2011 10:23:51 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: decimon

“holy grail”

Odd way to describe the last resting place of heros.


13 posted on 06/10/2011 10:35:38 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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Verdun and The Somme were an ecological Diseaster. Look at this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_rouge_(First_World_War) and this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_villages_destroyed_in_the_First_World_War as well as this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun


14 posted on 06/10/2011 10:36:07 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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Documentary Heaven
22 posted on 06/10/2011 11:05:54 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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Somewhat off topic, but poignant, is a book I read about German generals. In it, Senderlin, who fought in and lost his brother in WWI, actually went to the trench where he was buried, dug him up, put him in his car and drove him home to be buried. Horrifying to say the least.


35 posted on 06/10/2011 11:51:43 AM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: decimon
The Turkish attack on Vienna in 1529 featured use of tunneling, mines, and pitched battles underground.

http://wesulm.bravehost.com/history/vienna_siege.htm

50 posted on 06/10/2011 12:54:57 PM PDT by hellbender
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An interesting anecdote from the tunnel warfare of WWI involves the 'steel tree'. Click the pick to read the story:


61 posted on 06/10/2011 8:03:51 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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