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I bought my first gun

Posted on 06/06/2011 1:08:04 PM PDT by Scythian

I finally broke down and purchased my first gun for home protection.

It's the Mossberg 500 12 gauge. It has a short barrel and is great for in the home use. It even comes with a pistol grip but I wont attach that unless it everything goes all "beyond thunderdome" on us.

Going to take my wife out and make sure she knows how to handle it. I felt a shotgun was better and safer for an in home protection mechanism in our case. Heck, just the pump-action noise is enough to send someone packing.

Anyway, in for a penny in for a pound. I set aside money for 3 purchases of different firearms. I feel safer knowing we have it, just hope to never do anything with it.


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To: Scythian
Good choice, but a bit of advice about that pistol grip.

One wet and windy night out here in the swamp I was having problems with my long wire shortwave antenna. I used a spotlight, looked out the door and saw a tree limb hitting the wire.

I pulled out the Mossberg with the pistol grip, opened the door and cut loose on the branch. My wet left hand slipped off the wet forend and that 20" barrel came up and back and nailed me right on the forehead, hard!

41 posted on 06/06/2011 1:30:37 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a matter of fact, not a matter of opinion)
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To: Scythian

Good choice!
Mossbergs and 870 rems. are very reliable firearms,as duck hunters will attest.

Find a nra instructor for shotguns and take a short course.


42 posted on 06/06/2011 1:31:00 PM PDT by devistate one four (Popping smoke! 2012 the year of the taxpayer! TET68)
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To: Scythian

I got the same shotgun - I am 5’3 and weigh 120 lbs and it is not too much gun for me.

In fact, I had to “dispatch” a couple of aggressive roosters and it worked just fine.


43 posted on 06/06/2011 1:32:00 PM PDT by 30Moves
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To: Scythian

Find a course in home defense shotgun.

I’ve used pistol grip shotguns, they are of very limited use. Very hard to aim. If you need to place a round (or load of shot) precicely, fire from the shoulder, using the sights. You can get aftermarket ghost ring sights, I think. If the bad guy is three feet from a loved one, you don’t want to fire from the hip.

Many people’s first shot with a shorty pistol grip shotgun is that the thing recoils into their belly, knocking the wind out of them. Movies make it look easy, but that’s fake!


44 posted on 06/06/2011 1:32:48 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Scythian

After about 5 shots with the Mossberg 500 w/ pistol grip, you will not want to shoot stockless anymore. Shoulder-less recoil is pretty nasty.

I would highly recommend that you consider purchasing a Knox recoil reducing Special Ops stock for about $100. It will make your Mossberg 500 a lot more practical for home defense and game shooting (and a lot more fun for your wife to shoot!). Only one allen screw to swap out.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Knoxx-SpecOps-Mossberg-500-Adjustable-Stock-4200-C-NEW-/310321358450?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4840982672


45 posted on 06/06/2011 1:34:59 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Sorry, but I pictured that barrel cracking you in the head and had to laugh, sorry ;(

I think the pistol grip frankly would be too much, would probably break my wife’s hand, but great for testosterone ...

And guys, thanks fot the tips on youtube videos on the Mossberg 500 and to get the low recoil cartridges for my wife to get used to it, I hate for her to shoot it once and be terrified of it.


46 posted on 06/06/2011 1:35:41 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: doorgunner69
Couple suggestions, cycle the action a lot to smooth it up. The Mossberg I had was quite notchy compared to my Winchester 870.

I grew up around my fathers Model 97. The slide action on that thing was so tight, I figured it never had that many rounds fired through. The racking noise was so loud you could hear every action, ejection port opening, loading bail, hammer cocking. Once your familiar with the sound of a 97 rack--it stays with you, unless it's worn, I've seen actions on 97's "fall open".

47 posted on 06/06/2011 1:37:09 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Scythian

Shoot it many times - everyone in the family who might ever pick it up should have fired enough to be comfortable and not cringe in anticipation of that kick. The NRA Basic Shotgun course is good, if you can afford it. If not, any nearby trap/skeet/shotgun club is a good place to get help and pointers. Also, think about how to load it, and there are as many answers to that as there are regulars on FR. I like the idea of something that won’t go through too many layers of drywall or at least won’t have much energy left if it does (no, I’m not worried about the house, just about family members on the other side of a wall), and my opinion is that other than slugs it doesn’t matter what your load is within five yards, and I don’t expect to use my shotgun farther away than that. I like anything from 00 buckshot to #7 birdshot, and I don’t think it matters indoors, except that the smaller shot won’t do nearly as much damage after the second layer of drywall. Also, some people recommend a mixed load. I disagree unless you have a whole lot of training. You should know what’s coming out, and you’ll lose track if you really need to shoot more than once.


48 posted on 06/06/2011 1:37:35 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: GRRRRR
Celebrate diversity!


49 posted on 06/06/2011 1:37:49 PM PDT by magslinger (Because I read The Book and paid attention!-FReeper Psalm 144)
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To: Disambiguator; Scythian
"One thing to be aware of with the Mossberg regarding the use of pistol grips is that the slide release is to the left and slightly behind the trigger guard. The pistol grip will make it awkward to depress the button unless you are shooting left-handed."

...works by straightening the wrists a little and the tip of the right, middle finger (for right-handed folks). Also remember that the release shouldn't be necessary, after the first load is fired. Just pump it surely, completely and firmly each time after that.


50 posted on 06/06/2011 1:38:13 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: Scythian

I have all the guns I need, but all the guns I want.


51 posted on 06/06/2011 1:38:32 PM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: All
Load with 2 #4, then 4 00buck, followed by 2 slugs.

That way you can blast em up close, then further out and a couple of rounds that will go thru the car they are driving.

52 posted on 06/06/2011 1:39:26 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: moehoward

I had a Remington 1022, those things are practically indestructible. Hundreds of rounds through that if not thousands. I’d go out with a couple boxes of 50 rounds shot each time out and destroyed my recycled Coke cans the fun way.

I have a Remington 870 magnum marine which I’ve owned for 15+ years and will never part with it.

My Beretta 92D I sold when I lived in Virginia due to them not having a reciprocal concealed carry deal with Pennsylvania. I didn’t want to go through their licensing procedure and frankly should have bought a handgun that was single/double action instead of double only.

I agree with the opinions given. Shotgun, handgun, rifle. Those are the trinity of personal survivability. Notice I didn’t say self-defense. The crap hits the fan you don’t want to wish you had spent $1,000 to protect you, your home, your family and possibly country. Remember New Orleans after Katrina, remember the LA riots, remember that in the case of blizzards, tornados, hurricanes etc. you’re on your own.

This isn’t a gun nut saying this, I’m anything but. My family thinks I’m crazy for believing these things but hey, they have insurance and I do too. I can’t be reimbursed for my life.


53 posted on 06/06/2011 1:40:17 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Scythian
I started on the bolt action 22 as a child, my younger brother on a semi-auto.

It was just as you described. I learned to shoot straight the first shot, my brother learned to walk rounds over.

And when my 10 year old shot the 22 for the first time last month, when she learned she could shoot a lot of shots quickly, she asked for the 30 round magazine.

But I went for the semi-auto anyways, mostly because I wanted the semi-auto and I found the Ruger 10/22 cheaper than the bolt-actions that seemed comparable.

Now I just need to teach my girls a little self-control...

54 posted on 06/06/2011 1:40:41 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: fwdude

I’m considering buying the pieces and assembling a Saiga 12 gauge. I want to do this before it’s outright illegal, thanks to the BATFE. Any suggestions in that regard?

And if anyone HAS one for sale, or parts for sale, and is willing to work with someone on a tight budget, let me know. If you’re in my area I’ll even do odd jobs to help supplement the cash payment to make it a worthwhile arrangement. That is one of the two weapons I REALLY want, just because I want them.


55 posted on 06/06/2011 1:41:00 PM PDT by HushTX (I make libs rage quit.)
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To: HushTX

No clue on this one. I’d suggest a gun show if there are any in your area. You can usually find anything, or at least find solid leads, at these events.


56 posted on 06/06/2011 1:45:01 PM PDT by fwdude (Prosser wins, Goonions lose.)
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To: Scythian
The Mossberg 500 is a good platform. One of my sons has one. Forgive me if you already know this, but be nice to your wife and teach her to use it with LOW BRASS ammo. If you don't know what I'm talking about, just ask for 7 1/2 shot or smaller. The higher numbers are smaller. Low brass ammo will be a lot easier on her shoulder. :-)

Also... I've noticed that females don't seem to get much out of just punching holes in paper. I've taught quite a few women to shoot over the past several years and I've noticed that when they shoot something, they like to see something happen. If you're on a structured range, you might be stuck with paper, or clay pigeons. But if you're in a friend's field, set up something that MOVES when shot. Even if you just hang cans from a string.

Also... and this is IMPORTANT... put sights on the thing that you can see in the DARK, along with a light that's a minimum of 60 lumens. If this is going to be your primary home defense weapon, it should have a light, and a sight that functions in the dark. If you have to pick one or the other (because of budget), pick the sight. "Ghost Ring" tritiums are nice. This is speaking from experience where I was caught in the dark with a suitable weapon on which I couldn't see the sights... in a potentially dangerous situation...very stressful and nerve wracking for several minutes!

So remember... "low brass" ammo for the wife, and "lights-n-sights". :-) Send us a "range report" afterward. I'd love to hear about it! :-)
57 posted on 06/06/2011 1:46:23 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Scythian
Good for you! Welcome to the world of firearms. I'll be getting a Remington 870 myself. As soon as I get the funds.
Since you have opted for a 12 gauge shotgun for possible use inside the home, you MUST spend money on some electronic hearing protection. Something like Pro Ears.

If you discharge that Mossberg inside your home, you will sustain hearing damage. This is why I opted for the Beretta 92fs pistol for that purpose. To each his own I suppose.

One other suggestion...(as if you'd asked)...spend some dough on a home security system if you don't have one. Best to have a tactical advantage as soon as the bad guy enters your house at night rather than being surprised when he is standing in your bedroom doorway.

58 posted on 06/06/2011 1:50:44 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Treat me good, I'll treat you better. Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse.)
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To: Scythian; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
"I bought my first gun"

Outstanding. Congratulations.

I'm sure you will get more advice than you can use on this thread. $:-)

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

59 posted on 06/06/2011 1:52:05 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: thackney

There is a video on youtube of army testing of different calibers.

They tested the ability of calibers to penetrate standard home construction. The smaller calibers, 9mm and 5.56, all penetrated the home through brick and several layers of sheetrock.

Everything from .308 on up went completely through the building including furniture.


60 posted on 06/06/2011 1:54:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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