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To: Cronos

“You are not saved by faith alone, but by grace. Grace through faith,repentence, baptism, endurance — as Christ preached”

Repentence, water baptism, endurance = Salvation by Works and is old law. Godly works will equal rewards, 5 crowns. Our works are not sufficient to overcome sin and earn salvation -

Romans 10:4:

“Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”

Romans 3:23:

“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God”

which is why God gave us a free gift, if we only accept it. “Romans 10:9,10 John 3:16.”

We have available a free gift from God in this Grace administration, which started on the day of Pentecost:

Romans 6:23”

“For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

Ephesians 2:8–9

“8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God;”

“9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.”

Romans 10:9-10

“9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

“10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

Romans 6:1-23 discusses the consequences of sin for those who are saved by grace.

“11 In the same way, count yourselves dead to sin but alive to God in Christ Jesus. 12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires. 13 Do not offer any part of yourself to sin as an instrument of wickedness, but rather offer yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life; and offer every part of yourself to him as an instrument of righteousness. 14 For sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace.”


204 posted on 06/15/2011 3:48:56 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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To: ScottfromNJ; MarkBsnr
is old law.This is what Christ preached

  1. What does Jesus say saves us?
    • Matt. 24:13
      13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    • Matt 25:31-46 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
      35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
      36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

    Jesus says that if you endure to the end you get salvation, that if you helped your fellow man you inherit the kingdom of God (you get salvation) --> note these are HIS own words

  2. 1 Pet. 3:20-21: " It (Baptism )saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"

  3. Note -- also in Acts 16:31 we are told to believe and you will be saved

repent, believe, confess the name of the Lord, be baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and endure to the end. Christ's words...

You've contradicted Jesus's words with your interpretation of what Paul wrote -- I'm sorry, but Jesus's words hold more water with me rather than your interpretation of Paul's...

205 posted on 06/15/2011 3:53:20 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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