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To: ScottfromNJ; MarkBsnr
is old law.This is what Christ preached

  1. What does Jesus say saves us?
    • Matt. 24:13
      13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

    • Matt 25:31-46 34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
      35For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
      36Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

    Jesus says that if you endure to the end you get salvation, that if you helped your fellow man you inherit the kingdom of God (you get salvation) --> note these are HIS own words

  2. 1 Pet. 3:20-21: " It (Baptism )saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ"

  3. Note -- also in Acts 16:31 we are told to believe and you will be saved

repent, believe, confess the name of the Lord, be baptised in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and endure to the end. Christ's words...

You've contradicted Jesus's words with your interpretation of what Paul wrote -- I'm sorry, but Jesus's words hold more water with me rather than your interpretation of Paul's...

205 posted on 06/15/2011 3:53:20 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Cronos

“What does Jesus say saves us? Matt. 24:13”

Which was prior to the Administration of Grace.

“1 Pet. 3:20-21: “ It (Baptism )saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ”

Baptism defined here:

Luke 3:16

“John answered them all, “I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.”

“Note — also in Acts 16:31 we are told to believe and you will be saved”

Saved by works?

“You’ve contradicted Jesus’s words with your interpretation of what Paul wrote”

Contradicted by citing clear scripures? Like:

Romans 10:10

“For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.”


206 posted on 06/15/2011 8:42:51 PM PDT by ScottfromNJ
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