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Is this a rap song in a 50's movie?
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Posted on 05/23/2011 5:03:15 PM PDT by Krankor
Is this the beginning of rap?
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Ok, I realize it's nothing like the incredible crap out there now, but it sure sounds like the basic beginning of rap
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:03:17 PM PDT
by
Krankor
To: Krankor
To: Krankor
“Rap” frequently is considered as having its roots in a rhyming practice of the antebellum South called ‘The Dozens’. In The Dozens what happens is two people face off and make rhymes at each other as some sort of challenge. Rap contests of the latter day frequently play on the model of The Dozens with rappers hurling rhyming insults at each other.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dozens
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:07:10 PM PDT
by
MeganC
(NO WAR FOR OIL! ........except when a Democrat's in charge.)
To: Krankor
Is this the beginning of rap? No, "c" is the beginning of rap.
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:10:10 PM PDT
by
TruthShallSetYouFree
(If you can read this post, the world did not end on May 21st.)
To: Krankor
Uh, that’s called “singing”...
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:12:41 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
To: Krankor
Ok, I realize it's nothing like the incredible crap out there now, but it sure sounds like the basic beginning of rap It's the Jubalaires, basically a gospel harmony group like any number of others. You'll probably come closer to the roots of modern rap with Louis Jordan's "Saturday Night Fish Fry"
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:17:02 PM PDT
by
Bubba Ho-Tep
("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
To: Krankor
I beg to differ.
This is not rap.
Rap is more spoken than sung.
This was clearly singing.
And ir sure sounds a lot better than any rap.
To: Gondring
You’re right. It can’t be “rap” because:
1. It is sung in tune
2. It has a tune
3. You can understand what they are singing
4. It doesn’t have “f*ck”, “ho”, “bitch”, “cap”, “kill” or any similar words in it.
In other words, this song and group have class, rhythmn, and harmony. And I’ll bet that none of them ended up killed by other singers or went to jail for shooting someone.
Then again, it does have a “reparte’” structure so we can call this “premature rap”, as opposed to “crap”.
To: Krankor
No, that’s jazz from the forties done possibly during the ‘50s.
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:20:37 PM PDT
by
familyop
("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
To: Krankor
>>>>Is this the beginning of rap?
NO.
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:20:39 PM PDT
by
Keith in Iowa
(FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
To: Krankor
That ain't Rap. You can clearly understand every syllable of what they are singing. If you really want to get into the roots of Rap, try listening to any of the late 60's early 70's James Brown. Stuff like the The Payback.
Rap No:
Rap Yes:
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:21:58 PM PDT
by
Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
To: Krankor
Nad by the way, “Rap music” is an oxymoron. It’s a genre of performing art... music, it ain’t.
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:22:37 PM PDT
by
Keith in Iowa
(FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
To: TruthShallSetYouFree
LOL. Also, 75% of the Crap in the world is Rap.
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:24:06 PM PDT
by
King Moonracer
(Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
To: Krankor
It's been said that Bob Dylan was close to rap in
Subterranean Homesick Blues and there were other songs where the performer would rhythmically speak some lines.
The basic form had been around and then the early rappers used it for whole songs, mostly words and rhythm and little tune or melody.
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:33:56 PM PDT
by
Will88
To: Krankor
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:37:35 PM PDT
by
Selmore
(Except for ending Slavery, Facism, Communism, and Nazism, War never has accomplished anything)
To: Krankor
I thought Charlie Daniels “The Devil Went Down to Georgia” was the first rap song...
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:38:08 PM PDT
by
apillar
To: Krankor
What??!! Are you serious? The people in video actually had musical talent. They could sing and play their instuments. How could you connect that with rap which requires the performer to merely walk around the stage and curse while talking about fornicating with women and killing policemen?
To: Krankor
Rap? Heck, no! Did you never see movie musicals from the ‘40s and early ‘50s?
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:50:16 PM PDT
by
LibFreeOrDie
(Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
To: Krankor
The name of the band in the movie “Dick Layr” Sounds like a rap band, or is that gang? I don’t know....
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posted on
05/23/2011 5:52:03 PM PDT
by
When do we get liberated?
(A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suck at the tit of Capitalism.)
To: Krankor
Umm..NO. It’s singing with a melody.
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