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"The Wave Disk Generator uses 60 percent of its fuel for propulsion; standard car engines use just 15 percent. As a result, the generator is 3.5 times more fuel efficient than typical combustion engines.

Researchers estimate the new model could shave almost 1,000 pounds off a car's weight currently taken up by conventional engine systems.

The engine has a rotor that's equipped with wave-like channels that trap and mix oxygen and fuel as the rotor spins. These central inlets are blocked off, building pressure within the chamber, causing a shock wave that ignites the compressed air and fuel to transmit energy.

The Wave Disk Generator uses 60 percent of its fuel for propulsion; standard car engines use just 15 percent. As a result, the generator is 3.5 times more fuel efficient than typical combustion engines.

Researchers estimate the new model could shave almost 1,000 pounds off a car's weight currently taken up by conventional engine systems."

1 posted on 05/21/2011 2:18:32 PM PDT by Windflier
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From another forum I frequent:

The wave disk generator came up in discussion this past weekend with an old friend of mine, an MSU engineering graduate of some 30 years ago (my vintage as well...), he is still well connected with the MSU engineering community and I consider him to be brilliant. He knows some fellows who do contract machine work for many of MSU’s engineering projects, and apparently his friends have done some machine and fabrication work for the wave disk generator.

When I asked him if he thought it was a real breakthrough, or just another “revolutionary ICE design that never goes anywhere...”, I believe I’m quoting him correctly as saying “...I believe it is complete and utter f**king bulls**t.”

Apparently, said wave disk generator requires a rather large amount of compressed air to operate, and as we know, large amounts of compressed air aren’t free, and some outsiders who have looked at it believe that a goodly amount of the shaft output power comes from the compressed air input. Granted now, if it has enough shaft output, it could likely run it’s own turbocharger.

One other consensus is that the MSU academics involved are quite skilled at working the federal grant system.

I find the claims of 1000 pound reductions in vehicle weight due to conventional powertrains (engine, transmission, cooling system, emissions, and fluids) to be an exaggeration, as decent sized generators, wheel traction motors, batteries, and their associated heavy wiring and control systems have substantial weight. But if this thing can efficiently run a generator at constant speed with lower BSFC and emissions than a piston ICE, and provide enough output to run an all-electric vehicle, then perhaps it has merit.

Guess we’ll see, but my engineering skepticism detector is beeping on this one.


61 posted on 05/21/2011 4:05:31 PM PDT by linuxnut
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Source
71 posted on 05/21/2011 4:18:25 PM PDT by cynwoody
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We are Spartans
72 posted on 05/21/2011 4:19:24 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Obama calls for borders return to pre Mexican-American war boundaries.)
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After seeing all the responses in which this thing is compared to the Wankel, I'd like to point out that this is really a centrifugal pulse (”buzz”) jet.
76 posted on 05/21/2011 4:30:57 PM PDT by Brass Lamp
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Wow, MSU engineering degrees must be worthless if they are pushing this fraud.

A high student can see this a joke. This Soviet level crap.
77 posted on 05/21/2011 4:32:21 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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decrease auto emissions up to 90 percent when compared with conventional combustion engines.

I thought that today's engines were well over 90% emissions free...........maybe even around 96 or 97%.......

84 posted on 05/21/2011 4:52:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It's a beautiful day and I'm glad I can see it in color.......)
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I prefer this one:

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/car/11q1/2013_ford_mustang_shelby_gt500_to_have_camaro_zl1_slapping_600-plus_horsepower-future_cars


89 posted on 05/21/2011 5:10:49 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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60%????


If everything else is working at 100% efficiency, The materials would need to deal with 1400 degree temps inside the engine.
92 posted on 05/21/2011 5:57:40 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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This might be interesting as an auxiliary power unit just driving lods like air conditioning, alternator, power stering, power brake, etc.


96 posted on 05/21/2011 7:06:08 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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Researchers estimate the new model could shave almost 1,000 pounds off a car's weight currently taken up by conventional engine systems.

Or you could have one totally bitching engine of 500 pounds, use the other 500 pounds to enhance car safety by reinforcements of the body, and still be far better off than you originally were.
101 posted on 05/21/2011 7:48:46 PM PDT by aruanan
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