Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Theory about 2012 Presidential Race

Posted on 05/16/2011 11:06:34 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

We're beginning to see some strong candidates drop out.

Why? Perhaps these candidates feel if they band together to support one person that will make the candidate who goes against Obama that much stronger.

What if candidates like Romney, Huckabee, Trump, Gingrich, Santorum..all drop out and then they all banded together and they each used their own strengths to campaign for the nominee.

Imagine all those candidates supporting either Cain or Palin or Bachman.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: 2012; president; theory
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last
To: ConservativeMan55

He could be an insider candidate if Bush backs him.

Mitch did say that social issues need to take a back seat to fiscal issues right now so many see that as a RINO. Are deficits the #1 issue to you or somewhere down the line? If same sex marriage is your #1 issue then maybe someone like Santorum is your candidate. It all depends on how you rank the issues.


41 posted on 05/16/2011 11:55:30 PM PDT by byteback
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMan55

Bachman v. Palin in a 1 on 1 debate!


42 posted on 05/16/2011 11:56:46 PM PDT by trumandogz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: byteback

If Obama is such a shoe-in, why does he need a billion dollars?


43 posted on 05/17/2011 12:03:22 AM PDT by Jonty30
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: byteback

I also think that having a billion to spend on a campaign is actually a liability, because it would be all Obama and all the time.

Many people, except diehard Democrats are actually quite tired of his presence because of his tendency to not shut up.


44 posted on 05/17/2011 12:08:43 AM PDT by Jonty30
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMan55

We go through the same process every election season. Let me tell you, I hate Obama so much, I would vote for someone out of the phone book about now. I will support ANYONE that has a long form and doesn’t drool. Of course I will fret over who will be the best candidate in the primary and of course they probably will run out of money in 6 months, but whoever has the “R” beside their name will get the lever from me. We waste gigabytes of bandwidth arguing who we think would be the best, but can any real Freeper imagine staying home to protest that their candidate didn’t make it? The country deserves better, but we have what we have. I will swallow hard and vote for a Gingrich that made a commercial with Pelosi, or a Paul that is an idiot, or a Morman that can’t figure out if he wants socialized medicine or not. Any of them are better than Obama.


45 posted on 05/17/2011 12:12:52 AM PDT by chuckles
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: trumandogz

A case can be made that Palin is “next in line”. Probably a stronger case for Palin than Romney. Gingrich can make the argument, Paul can even make the argument.


46 posted on 05/17/2011 12:15:14 AM PDT by truthfreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: trumandogz

Without Palin, Romney over Gingrich?


47 posted on 05/17/2011 12:18:34 AM PDT by truthfreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
No, we are not doomed.

I've watched several people ponder these past couple of weeks as Trump, T-paw, Daniels, Huck, Newt, Romney, all stuck their toes in the water, and pulled them back out with smoking acid burns and peeling flesh. Yeah, Romney and Newt are still "officially" in the race, but they both went face-first into the dirt with their first steps.

The media has bent over backward trying to ignore the message of the 2010 elections, but these candidates cannot, at least not for long. RINOs are persona non grata in the USA, and that is not going to change for another couple of generations. Nobody is giving them money and nobody is giving them votes. Soon as they stick their faces out into the public arena, voters are telling them to get lost, in no uncertain terms.

The guy that blasted Newt today shook him to the core. The guy was polite, but resolute. In this country, when people are so angy that they stop protesting and name-calling, that is the time when these petty tyrants start to feel a cold chill to their bones. We're there.

None of these limp-wristed RINOs are going to win the GOP nomination, and none of them will win the presidency. The nation could not survive another RINO administration, just as it will not survive another term of this outfit, and everyone who is not totally drugged or drunk knows this. Even the yuppies are stocking up for a collapse.

The 2010 election was just a warning, compared to 2012.

48 posted on 05/17/2011 12:19:50 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: byteback

It probably doesn’t matter how much money the candidate has. It just matters if the economy is bad enough.


49 posted on 05/17/2011 12:25:20 AM PDT by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMan55

“If Romney drops out then all the people concerned about the economy.. will go to who he endorses.”

what?

“If Romney drops out then all the Mormons and RINOs .. will go to who he endorses.”


50 posted on 05/17/2011 12:29:10 AM PDT by truthfreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: meadsjn

Really love your attitude! I also say the “normal voter” putdown of Newt and loved it! He’s toast!

The real problem is what comes next and it seems to be up in the air to me... There are a couple (maybe 4) candidates that I think could save the country. They unfortunately are either little known or have a hard way to go.

Either way, you have inspired me somewhat and I will at least get somewhat enthusiastic with my choice. Hopefully, the rest of the US will also get engaged and contribute to that candidate (yet unknown). The wonderful thing about it is that even late in the game, that candidate can rake in millions via the internet if they are the chosen one. It will be needed to get their message out against a lying incumbent.


51 posted on 05/17/2011 12:30:26 AM PDT by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
It just matters if the economy is bad enough.

Certainly if the economy is good Obama will win but the OMB is projecting 8.2% unemployment around then. Gas prices are anyone's guess. I don't see the housing market rebounding and no recession has ever ended without that happening. Construction jobs will be a sure sign that the economy is back.

Still people loved FDR despite his policies and the depression yet I never hear about the candidate who had this great message because FDR was so great with radio. If we just let the media run the message we're toast so it will take money to counter message.

52 posted on 05/17/2011 12:40:54 AM PDT by byteback
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Deagle
Cain has a good message, but he is too soft-spoken, and he cannot put up the fight necessary. And many conservatives will remain suspicious of his prior support for Romney and his tenure on the Fed.

Bachmann is relentless as a fund-raiser, and she is a fighter. She'll get some flack about farm subsidies, but her real drawback is coming from the House and lack of name recognition. I predict she'll stay in until Sarah Palin announces sometime this summer.

Millions of people are sitting on their dollars waiting for Palin to announce. If ten million people contribute an average of $100 when Palin announces, she'll have One Billion within the first month.

This campaign is more like a military operation than politics, more so than any we've seen in our lifetimes.

And the survival of the nation really is at stake. Mothers intuitively get this. Men get it too, unless they have their nose stuffed up some NBA butt-crack or are in a drunken stupor.

53 posted on 05/17/2011 12:45:11 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: trumandogz
Clinton
Obama
Obama
54 posted on 05/17/2011 12:45:13 AM PDT by DangerZone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: ConservativeMan55

I have another theory. Where I work, some projects are so bad that everyone figures whoever becomes the PM is being set up for failure.

Maybe these guys know enough to know that only a fool would aspire to be president at a time like this.

That really is my take, actually. Urkel, from my perspective, with all his golf outings, vacations, etc., is almost acting like he is doing the 21st century equivalent of fiddling while Rome burns.


55 posted on 05/17/2011 12:46:08 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RobRoy

Maybe that’s why McCain threw the last election; let the community organizer take the heat.


56 posted on 05/17/2011 12:48:49 AM PDT by DangerZone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: DangerZone

McCain threw the election for the same reason he got into in the first place — because he’s a treasonous bastard; a slimy back-stabbing snake.


57 posted on 05/17/2011 12:55:03 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 56 | View Replies]

To: meadsjn

“Cain has a good message, but he is too soft-spoken, and he cannot put up the fight necessary.”

Hope you’re wrong...he is an excellent leader - calm, soft spoken (yes) but forceful and truthful. What a breath of fresh air.

Bachmann is relentless as a fund-raiser, and she is a fighter.

Another great choice - solid Conservative and fighter for principles.

“Millions of people are sitting on their dollars waiting for Palin to announce. If ten million people contribute an average of $100 when Palin announces, she’ll have One Billion within the first month.”

Oh yeah! If she actually announces, I have little doubt that she will set records for fund-raising on the Republican side. I just hope that it will be enough to overcome the negative media.

“This campaign is more like a military operation than politics, more so than any we’ve seen in our lifetimes.

And the survival of the nation really is at stake. Mothers intuitively get this. Men...”

You seem to have it down pat... Hoping that things work out better than I think (a bit pessimistic these days)...


58 posted on 05/17/2011 12:56:28 AM PDT by Deagle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]

To: Skip Ripley

Not necessarily. See 1980.

I was just looking at Pennsylvania results. What if we get Palin? Do we think that Upper Middle Class Country Club Independents in the suburbs of Philly are going to respond to Palin? Do we think they like Obama in 2012? Would they vote for Trump?

Reagan won PA in 1980. Republicans did not see much in the way of gains in the Philly burbs from 76 to 80. In those counties, Reagan did marginally better than Ford. But John Anderson did very well in those counties. Higher than the rest of the state - around 10%.

I think that there are some, in the John Anderson areas, that would grab at the middle choice, which would be trump or bloomberg, because they would not go as far as Palin (as was the case with Reagan) but they would move away from Obama.

I think that’s where a Trump or Bloomberg strength would be, in Northeastern Cities and Suburban areas. Well, we lose these states as it is. If Trump (from New York, which we lose) or Bloomberg (from New York, which we lose) runs as an independent, they’ll likely do great in New York.

If anybody likes Bloomberg, anywhere, it’s people in NYC, right? Same with Giuliani? Bloomberg takes a huge chunk of votes away from Obama in NYC, Millions of votes, that puts
New York in play.

Democrats will bail on their party and vote for an Independent, at least in Maine. The Democrat got 19% in the last Governors race.


59 posted on 05/17/2011 12:57:02 AM PDT by truthfreedom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: byteback

The three biggest problems I see with beating Obama are that about half of American voters are tax parasites, conservatives failed to close the GOP’s open primaries (especially bad since Zero is running unopposed), and the serious threat of voter fraud involving criminal aliens. Oh, and the Republican candidates are mostly uninspiring Rinos.


60 posted on 05/17/2011 12:57:29 AM PDT by DangerZone
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 52 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-8081-89 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson