[Notary Sojac]

NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Eighty percent of Americans actually don't give a damn about this nuance.

Fifteen percent (including me) would give a damn if the term had any established meaning in statute or case law (eighteenth century essays don't count, sorry!)

Then there is the other five percent.

[presently no screen name]

Then there is the other five percent.

Now that is delusional thinking. Your posts follow a pattern.

[3D-JOY]

I dispute your numbers.

Why did we have to pass a law clarifying the birth of McCain as acceptable? Because, the hospital was not ON THE MILITARY BASE? To try to stop his nomination?

Americans do care about the intent of the constitution and the need for the President to have no allegiance to a foreign power...my interpretation, not eighteenth century one!

How is all that apologizing and bowing to foreign leaders working out for you?

[driftless2]

Great response. The birthers/nbcers keep beating their heads against a gigantic, two-ton boulder thinking that the boulder will crack before their skulls do. It ain’t going to happen. Furthermore, there are zero congresscritters, including Pubbies, who will lift a finger to advance their cause.

[jeffo]

NATURAL BORN CITIZEN Eighty percent of Americans actually don't give a damn about this nuance. A similar number think the electoral college is a bad idea. Should we just chuck it out of the next election? Whats that, you can't cause its in the constitution? But the constitution doesn't matter any more, at least the parts that are difficult for lay people to understand. So lets get rid of all of them. Listen, anyone who has looked at prior supreme court constitutional law knows that Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen because he had a non-citizen parent. Just because no Supreme Court has touched it since the 1800s doesn't mean we just ignore it. Chester A. Arther went so far as to have his father's records altered so that he appeared to have been a citizen... why did he do that? Because Arthur and his people KNEW that his father's non-citizenship made him ineligible. These aren't crazy theories or rumors, these are facts, and just because you don't like them doesn't change that fact. Look, we could have $6 gas and Carter-esque 22% unemployment, and Obama will still get 90% of the black vote and ALL of the liberal pro-Abortion and Soros-inspired vote. The news media will NOT hold Obama to blame for the economy. So by saying we can beat Obama on his horrible record is actually far more assinine than believing that Obama is not eligible and should not be permitted to run... for a variety of reasons. Of course, if the constitution doesn't matter, then lets just get rid of all of it.

[rxsid]

"NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

Eighty percent of Americans actually don't give a damn about this nuance.

Fifteen percent (including me) would give a damn if the term had any established meaning in statute or case law (eighteenth century essays don't count, sorry!)

Then there is the other five percent.

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Office	Citizenship	Age	Residency (or years citizen)
Commander in Chief	natural born Citizen	35	14 years resident
Senator	Citizen	30	9 years a Citizen
Represantative	Citizen	25	7 years a Citizen

Either ALL of the Constitution matters, including AII,S1,C5, or it's all open to "interpretation" by whomever happens to be in power at the moment.

The framers never considered multi-nationals to be "natural born Citizens" and thus (post grandfather clause) eligible to the be Commander in Chief of the armed forces.